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• #127
These guys down with his views too?
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• #128
Absolutely.
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• #129
That badge, replete with it's beige tentacle vector glitch, is still up on Mamnick Tokyo instagram feed so presumably news hasn't filtered through to the Japanese wing of the operation...
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• #130
Who owns Mamnick @CEO_of_the_Year?
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• #131
tentacle vector glitch
Couldn't find it. Does it look like this?
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• #132
This is a pitfall of the sponsorship / collabo. My guess is that the Kibosh people (I have ridden with some of them) probably do not support Thom's views, they just wanted some free kit for their fledgling racing squad. But I guess when the Internet starts asking questions people get forced to weigh whether silence or clarification is better, especially if it might affect their sponsorship or marketing opportunities.
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• #133
https://www.instagram.com/p/BoYx6Mjg4Hx/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=1vwifd8hw3ytq
Here it is. The beige snaky thing pentrating the flesh-coloured band on the flag. Must be something to do with squids.
Maybe it's a 'homage' to a Dune sand worm!
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• #134
This is a pitfall of the sponsorship / collabo. My guess is that the Kibosh people (I have ridden with some of them) probably do not support Thom's views, they just wanted some free kit for their fledgling racing squad. But I guess when the Internet starts asking questions people get forced to weigh whether silence or clarification is better, especially if it might affect their sponsorship or marketing opportunities.
I'd suggest that they think of their other partners - at the moment Donhou is on the page next to Mamnick/kekistan.cc, with association/endorsement implied.
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• #135
I'm just catching up. Discounting the ex-bf of Thom's girlfriend and carl. who also seems to have something personal going on with him (you do know each other right?), I'm interested in what Thom has to say for himself. I sent him a couple of direct messages last night. Hope constructive discourse continues on here if the thread continues at all.
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• #136
Never mind the damage the endorsement is doing to associated businesses. The mere fact that he rides a Field has ruined the brand for me.
Reminds me of the story about Michael Winner's attempt to purchase a Bristol, when Tony Crook spotted Winner approaching the door of the dealership he dashed over, locked the door and flipped the sign to closed.
Would have been advisable for Fields to have employed the same tactic.
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• #137
I'm interested in what Thom has to say for himself.
I think he has said fair bit already hasn't he?
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• #138
I can't see that? The partners or sponsors have been the same since the beginning. Donny is a member of the team. http://www.kiboshracing.co.uk/sponsors/
For clarity, the Kibosh and Mamnick link is a collaboration bobble hat that was made recently. I've made the guys aware of this thread.
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• #139
For clarity, the Kibosh and Mamnick link is a collaboration bobble hat that was made recently. I've made the guys aware of this thread.
Thank you.
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• #140
Eh why does constructive dialogue have to happen here again?
Do we owe him some kind of opportunity to represent himself any further than he already has via his social media accounts? Are we beholden to afford him the benefit of doubt that he clearly has no interest or intention in giving others?
Maybe you should stop digging and let him own his own words and actions. He's a big boy, and from his posts about 'socialism' clearly into the concept of personal responsibility in all things
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• #141
Do we owe him some kind of opportunity to represent himself any further than he already has via his social media accounts? Are we beholden to afford him the benefit of doubt that he clearly has no interest or intention in giving others?
Got to give the other side an opportunity to respond is the usual bullshit argument, no matter how crazy or unacceptable their response may be.
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• #142
Remember the good old days, when 5th floor beef and d locks and ed being the photo detective?
sigh
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• #143
I'm not even going that far. It's our forum, like Danni foffa cuntchops up there is only interested in exploiting it for its PR value when it suits.
If any other forumenger posted the things he had they would be roundly told to fuck themselves elsewhere.
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• #144
So what's your solution then? In my experience hate only breeds hate. How do you facilitate change without understanding why someone has the views that they have? This is why we live in a divided country at the moment. "I'm right. You're wrong. I'm clever. You're dumb. I'm good. You're bad." doesn't do anything to move us forward.
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• #145
I'm not really interested in acting as a Vanessa Feltz for confused racists tbh.
It's a cycling forum. Not publicly funded, not a journalism platform.
You have chosen to insert yourself into this thread as an arbiter because you have some kind of personal allegiance to him, I suggest you take the task of spelling out the shortcomings of his political views instead of placing that duty on us as some kind of proxy.
If I stopped to try and minister to every nasty blinkered cunt in the street in this country I doubt I would get much done with my day and precious little thanks for it. You pal clearly values his time more than engaging with anyone here in any sincere way so again, don't put your social burdens on us when it's you that's chosen to take it on in the first place.
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• #146
Hell hath no fury like LFGSS scorned.
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• #147
Are the lightweight wheels still available?
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• #148
Well, I can only speak from my own experience- and I had never heard of Kibosh, or Mamnick, before yesterday/today.
I visited the Kibosh site, saw Donhou as co-sponsor with Mamnick (and an old F1 car).
Mamnick is run by Thom, who holds views that I consider to be both factually wrong and morally bankrupt.
Given his billing on the Kibosh site as partner/sponsor/whatever, then that appears as an endorsement of what Mamnick stands for (hate, division, ignorance) from Donhou and Kibosh.
Now that may not be true- but to a first time visitor (me) to Kibosh, that’s the perception.
Perception is reality until such a time as that perception is corrected- which in this case would be Kibosh and Donhou making their position known, and known in such a way that it wasn’t open to interpretation- for e.g. “we are sorry that you are offended” type bollocks.
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• #149
Crumble
banned
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• #150
Only just learnt of this, unfollowed, reported, etc.
Pretty self explanatory. The inauthentic will always feed off the authentic for substance.