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  • This is a pitfall of the sponsorship / collabo. My guess is that the Kibosh people (I have ridden with some of them) probably do not support Thom's views, they just wanted some free kit for their fledgling racing squad. But I guess when the Internet starts asking questions people get forced to weigh whether silence or clarification is better, especially if it might affect their sponsorship or marketing opportunities.

    I'd suggest that they think of their other partners - at the moment Donhou is on the page next to Mamnick/kekistan.cc, with association/endorsement implied.

  • For clarity, the Kibosh and Mamnick link is a collaboration bobble hat that was made recently. I've made the guys aware of this thread.

    Thank you.

  • Well, I can only speak from my own experience- and I had never heard of Kibosh, or Mamnick, before yesterday/today.

    I visited the Kibosh site, saw Donhou as co-sponsor with Mamnick (and an old F1 car).

    Mamnick is run by Thom, who holds views that I consider to be both factually wrong and morally bankrupt.

    Given his billing on the Kibosh site as partner/sponsor/whatever, then that appears as an endorsement of what Mamnick stands for (hate, division, ignorance) from Donhou and Kibosh.

    Now that may not be true- but to a first time visitor (me) to Kibosh, that’s the perception.

    Perception is reality until such a time as that perception is corrected- which in this case would be Kibosh and Donhou making their position known, and known in such a way that it wasn’t open to interpretation- for e.g. “we are sorry that you are offended” type bollocks.

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