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  • I don't think we can knock anyone in this day and age for 'paying homage' or copying old-school influences when it's all been done before by much bigger people making a lot of money and you're obviously overestimating Mamnick if you think they have an in-house designer who drew up that RSF badge thing

    Eh. I've worked in the creative industries all my days. Directly lifting other people's work and putting your logo on it is not 'paying homage' it's plagiarism. Calling it so or pointing at others doing it for larger profit is mealy mouthed apologism.

    I've been around Thom in social situations and I've never heard him say anything racist. Trust me, I'd be the first person to call him out. But if I stopped talking to everyone who supports Brexit, I'd have no family left for starters. He does like to push people's buttons. That much is obvious. The holier than thou crap that some people are spewing about him whilst also sending hate mail to his friends and customers makes them no better though.

    The old right wing false flag eh? He's literally publishing it online under his own name but you never saw him actually spit on a refugee so what do you know, right? As for his customers getting hate mail, I'll believe it when I see it. Smacks of another attempt to garner sympathy by pointing to others shitty attitudes as a panacea for his own.

  • I was talking in a very specific cycling history context here. I'm not saying it's okay but my (ill made) point was why have a pop at the little guy while fawning over what brand XYZ are doing? It makes no sense to me.

    I'm not asking for sympathy and I am not apologising for his behaviour. I thought it was fair to give more background info on someone people are rushing to burn over the internet. I have just spent the last ten mins looking at that Twitter account above. I have never seen it before. I was one of those people btw. I blocked the account in question.

  • If Rapha literally copied a club's badge without their permission they could and probably would get sued. Some things can't be copyrighted, certainly, but we're not talking about something vague, we're talking about something very specific and if someone did it to my work and passed it off as theirs, I'd be raging. Again, pointing to the faults of others doesn't diminish our own.

    Okay, at risk of walking into the firing line, I'll try to be objective about Thom.

    I'd say in this you have put yourself in the firing line, and for whatever reason, you're unable to be objective. I very much doubt anyone on here is sending hate mail, but we do have a right to discuss what Mamick/Thom has himself put out into the world and comment upon it without being told we're "spewing holier than thou crap" by someone who themselves is biased/blinkered. That twitter account is fucking awful, and contrary to Thom's beliefs you don't have to be a card carrying communist to think or say it.

  • I have just spent the last ten mins looking at that Twitter account above. I have never seen it before.

    What did you make of it? Cracking stuff right? Yomp!

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