Gravel / Gravé / Gnarmac / Groad / ATB

1.9" 650B wheels

A size that doesn't really exist?

42mm 650b with guards though? The holy grail.

With road/race geo this could be a wicked shit-weather, mixed/shitty-road, road bike.

Angles are pretty steep in the 'Hi' axle position:
HT 73,5 degrees
ST 73,3
fork offset 45mm

@PhilDAS start saving now

Nah looks shit

Ha. Prick.

I'm too in love with my norco to want anything else

is that the green bike that you are riding? who makes it?

42mm 650b with guards though? The holy grail.

72mm BB drop too, which should be perfect with that size tyre.

Overall it's nice to see something with clearance and mudguard mounts but still on the sportier side of things. I'm still struggling a bit with the 2 positions though , the BB is higher on the so-called "endurance" position, which makes no sense to me.

Reckon you will hate this but it does what you want I think - 40ish tyre, mudguards, internal cables, 73.5/72.5, 424 chainstay, 1030 wheelbase

"Slam" stem + replace seatpost with something normal it might look alright

No I do like them. But I won't buy new and I haven't seen any framesets for sale 2nd hand.
Also can't find one slammed

Alu doesn't have the weird stem gubbins, more slammish. But smaller tyre I think

Looks like any other hybrid

Doesn’t that bracket holding the basket to the fork rotate when the basket gets loaded? Can you still get the wheel out? 🤔

That Phil decals 😆

Your mum.

26"+?

Yeah!

shame they didn't go "in search of" a mechanic who knows how to install mudguards properly

Sick tractor m8

i just threw up a little in my mouth

I did a Genesis Genesis A while back. I dig yo Phil Merckx sticker!

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I’ve ridden a few times with about 8kg and there is no movement. I have a light mounted under the basket that sits about 10mm above the tyre which allows me to see if there is cause for concern.

Nice as always @hoops

Last few pages show that just taking your endurance bike and making it uglier = gravel biek.

Would the Holdsworth Elan frame take 42mm 650b tyres?

I reckon a 42mm tyre would be fine, if this is anything to go by.

No, 42mm is 1.75, The 1.5 tyres is already too tight as it is.