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@Chalfie
I'm reminded of the first time I became aware of valverde, it was the tour when Tommy V was ripping up trees. And valverde did him on a stage? And from then on it was the side by side until the end and then pipping his wheel over first. And then any hilly finish.
Hilly finish? Long?
He's tough.
And unrepentant. I bet there are others.
It's just sport.