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Any kind of Brexit cannot pass the six tests, but the manifesto states that Labour are committed to leaving.
This I agree with, provided the EU were to behave towards Labour as they are towards the Tories. There's no reason to believe they wouldn't. It's unlikely that Labour know something they're not telling us there.
The manifesto doesn't actually say 'Labour are committed to Brexit' or anything that can be interpreted as such. It merely says that it accepts the referendum result and talks as if Labour would continue to leave the EU.
Then (if you don't believe in Olivers "yes means no" contortions) we have the manifesto which is stuffed full of as many unicorns as Chequers.
I don't make any contortions. I merely say that the sentence about Freedom of Movement ending doesn't mean what you think it does (see previous post, which I stand by), and that it therefore doesn't lead to what you want to infer from it. In my opinion, it's as far as Corbyn is prepared to go to tackle one of the bêtes noires of xenophobes (FOM) while approaching it from a completely different angle, that of worker exploitation between different countries.
Could this all be marketing, designed to allow the Tories enough rope to hang themselves?
Potentially, yes.
I think many of the positive noises are genuine, but there is definitely the kind of ambiguity in it that Labour need at the moment to communicate with their various audiences.
But equally it could be the same kind of exceptionalist, muddled thinking that we see in Chequers, but without the scrutiny of the EU to expose it.
Yes, the current lack of being at the coalface is definitely important in reading it.
As it stands we have no clarity from Labour, unless you're 100% convinced that your tea-leaf reading trumps what they've actually written in their manifesto.
I agree that there's a lack of clarity, but I do think it's deliberate. You really don't need to read tea leaves to divine soft 'Brexit' intentions, but what it obviously isn't drawn on is what the Labour leadership really thinks of 'Brexit'--we've just had Starmer saying to conference that he wouldn't rule out 'remain', but the manifesto doesn't say.
Any kind of Brexit cannot pass the six tests, but the manifesto states that Labour are committed to leaving.
Then (if you don't believe in Olivers "yes means no" contortions) we have the manifesto which is stuffed full of as many unicorns as Chequers.
Could this all be marketing, designed to allow the Tories enough rope to hang themselves?
Potentially, yes.
But equally it could be the same kind of exceptionalist, muddled thinking that we see in Chequers, but without the scrutiny of the EU to expose it.
As it stands we have no clarity from Labour, unless you're 100% convinced that your tea-leaf reading trumps what they've actually written in their manifesto.