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• #52
Coverage in Guardian today: https://twitter.com/guardian/status/1044132634518016000?s=21
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• #53
Fucking hell, what a disaster of an article.
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• #54
Indeed
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• #55
The comments aren’t any great neither.
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• #57
Complaint submitted, mealy-mouthed justification expected.
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• #58
It's syndicated content from Australian Associated Press. Presumably published verbatim. Bonkers.
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• #59
Headline has been changed to: "British ultra-endurance cyclist Mike Hall killed almost instantly, inquest told" but the Guardian URL remains the same at the moment.
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• #60
Anna posted this on the TCR Facebook page:
I am here in Canberra to ensure the right questions are asked, it
wasn't our day to ask questions today, we will be doing so. Please
don't take everything from day 1 of a 3 day inquest as gospel. This
has been a long wait for answers, nobody feels it more that those of
us who loved Mike deeply. Please be patient and trust I am here for
Mike. "Anybody who knew Mike knows he was very capable, very
experienced, very intelligent, very aware of risks and very capable of
managing risks," she says. "So having anybody who didn't know Mike
maybe [suggesting he was] reckless or anything like that would be
unjust. It's important for me to be able to say that if I need to."
Anna xx -
• #61
There is also this:
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• #62
BBC pretty much quoting the standard release, but at least it’s on the main site
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• #63
"it was dark at the time and would have been hard for a motorist to see"
What if vehicles had some kind of anti-dark thing mounted to them?
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• #64
What time was it? Before sunrise but that usually means there's light enough around and anyone who drives in Oz knows that dawn/dusk are bad for kangaroos crossing roads so should be taking extra care. 'Should be'
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• #65
So we have the completely incompetent reconstruction, by the sound of it:
Senior Constable Potts of the AFP created a video using a reconstruction of Mike Hall’s bike to examine how visible Mike Hall would have been. This reconstruction placed the bike off the road to the left, substituted the Dynamo hub with a 6-volt battery, excluded the rear bag and its reflective strip, excluded any person or clothing, excluded any front white light shining on the road, and excluded any human movement of the bike. There was also a Police light stationed near the bike and an oncoming car in the simulation that was admitted into evidence by the AFP. In the submitted video, the reconstructed bike was difficult to see.
Sounds a bit like reconstructing slowing down a track bike by backpedalling.
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• #66
The AFP tested the car’s remaining front light and found the light to be below the required brightness to pass a roadworthy test in both NSW and the ACT
And if it actually worked enough
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• #67
Sounds like bullshit. Of course a stationary bike which is all of about an inch wide for most of it's height is going to be difficult to see. But that is not the circumstances of the incident so why bother reconstructing it?
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• #68
Yeah, sounds a bit like reconstructing Titanic with an ice cube and a rubber duck. Idiots.
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• #69
6:22. Less than an hour before sunrise. Maybe wouldn't have been pitch black at that point? Who knows
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• #70
He was pretty visible the night before I'd say
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• #71
07.16am - sunrise on that day - http://www.sunrise-and-sunset.com/en/sun/australia/canberra/2017/march
Sounds like crap with that evidence ^
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• #72
It's always light before "sunrise".
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• #73
Yes, the coroner should not accept the 'reconstruction' by the police.
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• #74
A bit more balanced coverage on the BBC website: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-45622381
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• #75
ABC
You must mean the BBC.
Cross-posting from the TCR thread:
https://www.justgiving.com/crowdfunding/mikehall2018
Thanks to @WornCleat for posting it over there.