Gravel / Gravé / Gnarmac / Groad / ATB

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Netakure in reply to @miro_o

Still, I don't get people spending loads on money on a lightweight carbon frame that will get massive tires, disc brakes, bags, dynamo, mudguards, etc. Of the 14 kg bike you may get a 13 kg bike, hardly a hill climb bike

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edscoble in reply to @Netakure

Again, the point isn't the weight of the carbon bike but the ride of it, not everyone is content with a bicycle that's slow to handle and felt sluggish to ride.

Of the 14 kg bike you may get a 13 kg bike, hardly a hill climb bike.

13kg is a staggering amount, more like 10 and a half.

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