Gravel / Gravé / Gnarmac / Groad / ATB

But what's the point on having a light adventure bike? You're not racing anyone so what if it does take 3 seconds more to go up a hill?

It’s more about how the bike feel than the weight, for some the sluggish feeling and slow handling felt like hard work.

I empathise, going for an Arkose give me a good balance of stiffness and stability, not fast but not a slouch.

my cdf size L weighs 11.7 with mudgards, dyno-hub, rear rack, carbon fork and 1xset-up. but it is just my commuter and still the heavies bikes in my stable.

you could loose a lot of weight, but you could invest the money in a better/lighter f&f

Yeah, what's the point on having a bike that's less than 14kg, right?

But what's the point on having a light adventure bike?

Sounds ace to me. I mean even when camping it’s nicer if the bike if it doesn’t feel like a loaded truck. Then for shorter, quicker rides a light bike is just more enjoyable and slightly faster.

..... why am I explaining this. It’s obvious no?

;-)

Me and a couple mates rode up Leith hill on our loaded bikes with camping gear. I prayed for a few kilos less and that’s by no means a big hill

Granted I was pushing 1x 58 chainring and a 23t cassette coz I’m a fucking beast but still

1x 58 chainring and a 23t cassette

If you can't cope with that gearing, then you shouldn't be allowed to own a gravel bike.

Grabs popcorn 🍿

Granted I was pushing 1x 58 chainring and a 23t cassette coz I’m a fucking beast but still

That's a mite high for a gravel bike, surely a 53t would sufficient?

Still, I don't get people spending loads on money on a lightweight carbon frame that will get massive tires, disc brakes, bags, dynamo, mudguards, etc. Of the 14 kg bike you may get a 13 kg bike, hardly a hill climb bike

23t cassette

What are you, some sort of tiny legless baby? I threw the cassette away, I only need the 11t.

Again, the point isn't the weight of the carbon bike but the ride of it, not everyone is content with a bicycle that's slow to handle and felt sluggish to ride.

Of the 14 kg bike you may get a 13 kg bike, hardly a hill climb bike.

13kg is a staggering amount, more like 10 and a half.

Right Ed, so any recommendations on cheap but decent disc hub that is :
Front TA 100x15
Rear QR 135
Preferably centre lock
Wager it will be a novatec from ali, but which one?

Dt Swiss P1800 Spline.

Cheers mate, Will look into it.
prefer building my own hence the hub question.

Right ok the big gear joke was funny the first time, we can all move on now

If you're going DT at least get the ratchet... DT 350, I've got 2 sets they've been great, one is laced up to some £20 Pacenti SL25 from PX, They weigh like 1500g.

Yes boss. My apologies

• Get the heavy gravgrav bike
  
• ride lots
  
• get strong
  
• race on the weenie road bike
  ?????
  
• profit
  

Don't get me wrong about the Sequoia....it's a good bike.
When you start out on a ride, it feels heavy, but smooth. After about three hours you don't notice the weight and after 5-6 hours, it becomes momentum. It's a good bike! But I sometimes have a hankering for a lighter good bike.....the hunt 650b wheels made a hell of a difference too....

That a good description. Especially after 5 hours when you start feeling fragility.

Currently riding around Arran on this.

Absolutely cracking. Bit like a steel arkose but much more fun than the arkose I had. Thru axle front and back. All the mounts you could want.

If you can get one in the UK I recommend it. I was lucky enough to have a friend ship me one.

Norco search xr steel

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Saw this bike at Dirty Reiver this year. Pretty wild. Don't remember the levers though.

That Norco looks bloody fantastic indeed. Quite a jump in price compared to the Arkose though