EU referendum, brexit and the aftermath

Re the irish border, this twitter account explains it all in a melancholical and humour way. Well, of course, it is the border

https://twitter.com/borderirish?lang=en

I am contemplating moving back to Denmark next summer. I have some savings I want to move back home as well. Do we think the pound will plummet soon? Will it make sense to move things now? Or wait it out?
Maybe this is the wrong thread for it, but surely I am not the only one thinking about these things

Depends I think on which way the DUP jumps. If they vote for an Irish Sea border then we can get the WA and transition - which kicks the can further down the road, likely past your point of departure.

If the DUP balks, then I would expect either total economic carnage, or Brexit being cancelled - possibly both. If the DUP withdraw support for Mays government then we'll have a GE I would think, then it comes down to whether one of the parties flips to remain.

Using transferwise and other online services it is quite cheap. I am going to convert some of my cash, if Brexit is cancelled I can always use them for holidays.

Then if you decide to move, then at least you got more Euros for your £ if it all goes pearshaped.

So far it is all looking like a train crash filmed on a high speed camera with the glass shards and debris slowly moving my way, but, the UK could last minute compromise/ a GE can happen etc...

Even with the worst some sectors/cities may not be hit much, though the NHS/education and other things that rely on the tax pot won't do well long term...

Depending on how much you want to transfer, try looking at Revolut - you might have to spring for the higher rate but, like Monzo, they don’t charge for conversion

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45586010

Theresa May's proposed new economic partnership with the EU "will not work", the head of the European Council has said.

Donald Tusk said the plans risked undermining the EU's single market.

Oh FFS, this is like groundhog day. Except we don't get the charming Bill Murray but Theresa May and her "would you like to play game"

Errrr.

I'm on the same boat. For my limited understanding it's deal= pound will rise, no deal= Brexit vote all over again.
Rational thinking says that in the end the UK will take whatever deal gets offered and the EU in exchange will make it as undefined as possible so they can sell it to the rabid brexiteers, but I got it all wrong last time and lost a fair amount of my money :(

Brexit is religion, not politics - expecting rational decision making is a mistake.

Good to know that what Tusk is saying is only a 'negotiating tactic'.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/sep/20/brexit-theresa-may-eu-criticism-of-chequers-plan-is-negotiating-tactic

It's an obvious fact given that it's clearly not the case that the EU has been saying essentially the same thing for two years ...

Tusk and Barnier must be evaluating their life choices every time they have to deal with the UK "negotiation" team.

But the UK admitting it does not have the upper hand in anything, oh dear, that may be hard.

'The prime minister also said she would presenter a counter-proposal...'

Good to see that the Guardian takes some of its long-standing traditions seriously.

that may be hard

I see what you did there.

A good article on languages, with which I agree wholeheartedly:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/sep/21/european-language-brexit-britain

A little light relief (Brexit book titles)

https://twitter.com/MichaelPDeacon/status/1016288958412738560

Genuine question. Which language would be best on the easy to learn/nice place to live and work matrix?

Swedish is fairly easy, lots of similarities to English. I have always thought Dutch would be a good one to do.

As a Dutchie our pronunciation and grammar is a bit of a mess. But I know an Englishman (now British / Dutch) who taught himself it, so it is not impossible.

My partner taught himself Swedish it does not seem to be overly complex as the grammar / verbs are quite reasonably structured.

German, I hope you love lots of grammar rules. French, I hope you like lots of grammar exceptions and sayings :)

Or just pick the one you like most, after all it's a labour of love unless you go for one for work/holidays.

huge difference between learning Latin-derived languages and Germanic/Norse ones.

Trying to learn German has stretched my brain in a way learning French, Spanish and Italian didn't-once you get French down Spanish is really easy too.

I think people probably have their own natural inclinations to either, I definitely prefer speaking French and to be honest the culture is more warm/chatty than Germany which is quite distant and formal by comparison.

Horses for courses really.

After yesterday, this year's Tory Conference should be a hoot!

Anyone fancy gatecrashing for the popcorns?

Could it be even worse than last year?

Probably node.js

Maybe this is the wrong thread for it, but surely I am not the only one thinking about these things

No. No you're not.

The disparate groupings within the Tory party only have to hang together until the UK leaves the EU next March.
I suspect the fear of a Corbyn-led 'marxist' administration, stoked by Daily Mail front page splashes, will be enough for the contradictory factions to stick together for less than 6 months.
How much better would this country be if John Major had had the balls to suspend his b4st4rds?

Interesting development on withdrawing A50 notification (being referred to ECJ)

https://twitter.com/GeorgePeretzQC/status/1043098620122169344

And some UKIP merchandise

https://twitter.com/hopenothate/status/1043080292465078273