EU referendum, brexit and the aftermath

plentiful opium for those that could afford it

In. Where do I change my vote to a Leave?

Time to buy shares in top-hat producers.

I've seen enough Hammer films to know what the Victorians were like.

Typical Victorian.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hs0DsRSSat8

it all becomes clear ;)

They'll pay off in 50 years according to our fav top hat wearer ;)

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victorian values = code for the god given right to call black folks what their grandmothers used to call black folks.

There are moments in UK history to be proud, the lack of segregation in the UK compared to the US in WW2.

But other moments I think wow, we really are fucking backward yokels.

Having listened again it seems the Victorian ethos is where nothing is a challenge and we can overcome it all (apart from coping with immigrants it seems).

we really are fucking backward yokels

Agree and I'm from Austracistlia FFS

Does this mean the armies gonna start dressing in red again? Maybe that new Falklands invasion force they've been talking up.

Victorian times = grate empire. I can't otherwise imagine what was so great about it that people need to bring it up :/

Horrible Histories is a kids show taking the piss out of adult shows (in case you've not seen it) while teaching history

Always good to get an outside view of Brexit. This fun summary from the WP:

Doomsday scenario

When it was built a quarter-century ago, the Eurotunnel was hailed as an engineering marvel. The game-changing undersea rail link between Britain and the European continent helped spark our global age of frictionless, “just-in-time” trade and manufacturing. But the imminent departure of Britain from the European Union — just six months away — threatens to undercut one of the most elaborate transit networks and business models on the planet, disrupting daily life for businesses and people alike.

The $20 trillion European economy is built on open borders for delivering fresh English lamb to butchers in Milan or German disc brakes to BMW in Oxford — not in days, but hours.

British negotiators remain resolute that a new free-trade accord can be hammered out in time. Yet the British government is also warning British consumers and companies that they should brace themselves for a “no-deal Brexit” or “Brexit doomsday” — causing some degree of panic.

Now, Brexit Secretary Dominic Raab is encouraging drug companies to stockpile extra medicine in case supplies cannot get onto the island. Cadbury has started hoarding chocolate for fear that ingredients will become difficult to obtain. On Thursday, the French minister for European affairs warned that British trains and planes might not be allowed into France without a deal, while the governor of the Bank of England told the cabinet that a no-deal Brexit would wreak havoc rivaling the financial crisis of 2008.

If London “crashes out” of Europe’s enormous single market and regulatory controls, Britain could find itself suddenly branded a “third country” under E.U. trade rules, subject to not only quotas and tariffs but also inspections at border control stations. British meats and seafood may be viewed as no different than a container-load of frozen chicken from Malaysia, which can take 72 hours to pass through an E.U. port.

It has gotten so bad that British authorities have had to downplay rumors the army would be deployed to maintain civil order.

Brexit fans, meanwhile, call threats of a no-deal doomsday a bluff — a propaganda project to instill fear. But polls show a majority of voters believes a no-deal Brexit is more likely than not, and experts don’t have a sunny outlook on what would ensue.

It would “quite likely to be the worst political, economic, and social crisis for a generation — maybe longer,” said Rob Ford, a professor of politics at the University of Manchester. — William Booth and Karla Adam

I love the idea we will have blue passports but not actually be able to travel internationally.

I already have a blue passport and unlike the British one, if you show mine to the French, they don't spit in my food.

It's got some major errors in it, we were never going to have a trade deal by leaving day, and we were always going to become a third country under EU trade rules - and still will, even if we get the WA over the line.

In front of you.

Back to the good old days of a life expectancy between 30 and 41, industrial accidents, sickness, disease and plentiful opium for those that could afford it.

Grrrrrreat days.

I didn't know you grew up in Basildon too.

Victorian times = grate empire

That was the shoving kids up chimneys thing, right?

The Belgians do lock their cellars up when they see my blue passport though.

TCR = Trappist ale Consumption Rate

Yep...

The history of the Linen industry in Belfast also shows 6 day working weeks, kids working and 10 people crammed in tiny two ups two downs.

But hey, no furrins!!!

Always good to get an outside view of Brexit. This fun summary from the WP:

Doomsday scenario

When it was built a quarter-century ago, the Eurotunnel was hailed as an engineering marvel. The game-changing undersea rail link between Britain and the European continent helped spark our global age of frictionless, “just-in-time” trade and manufacturing. But the imminent departure of Britain from the European Union — just six months away — threatens to undercut one of the most elaborate transit networks and business models on the planet, disrupting daily life for businesses and people alike.

The $20 trillion European economy is built on open borders for delivering fresh English lamb to butchers in Milan or German disc brakes to BMW in Oxford — not in days, but hours.

British negotiators remain resolute that a new free-trade accord can be hammered out in time. Yet the British government is also warning British consumers and companies that they should brace themselves for a “no-deal Brexit” or “Brexit doomsday” — causing some degree of panic.

Now, Brexit Secretary Dominic Raab is encouraging drug companies to stockpile extra medicine in case supplies cannot get onto the island. Cadbury has started hoarding chocolate for fear that ingredients will become difficult to obtain. On Thursday, the French minister for European affairs warned that British trains and planes might not be allowed into France without a deal, while the governor of the Bank of England told the cabinet that a no-deal Brexit would wreak havoc rivaling the financial crisis of 2008.

If London “crashes out” of Europe’s enormous single market and regulatory controls, Britain could find itself suddenly branded a “third country” under E.U. trade rules, subject to not only quotas and tariffs but also inspections at border control stations. British meats and seafood may be viewed as no different than a container-load of frozen chicken from Malaysia, which can take 72 hours to pass through an E.U. port.

It has gotten so bad that British authorities have had to downplay rumors the army would be deployed to maintain civil order.

Brexit fans, meanwhile, call threats of a no-deal doomsday a bluff — a propaganda project to instill fear. But polls show a majority of voters believes a no-deal Brexit is more likely than not, and experts don’t have a sunny outlook on what would ensue.

It would “quite likely to be the worst political, economic, and social crisis for a generation — maybe longer,” said Rob Ford, a professor of politics at the University of Manchester. — William Booth and Karla Adam

Are we fucked? We're fucked aren't we?.....

Oh, now I really want a big Belgian beer to go with the chickenfuckinparma I'm going to 'hunt' down for lunch.