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• #13602
That would all be a huge issues, along wotb maintaning a non goids check borfer in NI which then wont happen, and I don't buy the line that Labour will get a special deal / one that doesn't cost jobs.
But reading Oliver's links it seems that the party is saying several things (which I don't like) and the position isn't a 100% firm yet and open to grassroots and union influence.
I am still not impressed with the waffle (others call this strategy) but also not sure the final endgame is no single market.
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• #13603
wotb maintaning a non goids check borfer
Quoted for posterity. :)
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• #13604
Well, we might now be treated to Corbyn facing down the unions on Brexit.
I reckon he knows that he'll win the GE early next year, the question is how well a UK comprising England, Wales, and the minor islands would fair, and how the border with Scotland would be managed.
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• #13605
Didn't at the last one.
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• #13606
LOLz
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• #13607
Times and the Grauniad this morning - seems to be a border in the Irish Sea that we're going to pretend isn't a border?
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• #13608
I am still waiting on more information on that...ideas to do checks at ferry ports (which are ALREADY done for animals...) were blocked by the DUP/Tories.
Not so convinced either about the trusted trader scheme, how much will it cost and how easy will it be?
And the ANPR cameras will be trashed on a semi-regular basis.And services still aren't covered and medicine...some companies have stopped expanding here and set up shop down South. So, maybe there won't be stockpiling and trouble (much) but still not sure why we are doing this.
The NI brexit on a local paper didn't reply either, had to ask him 3 times and not a word. Fishing comes up again, but you don't need to Brexit to fix that.
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• #13609
Reading into this it's a border that is enforced at ports, and will require NI to be CU and SM, plus massive quantities of spin.
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• #13610
But that is the backstop that the Tories/DUP don't want.
I would be pretty happy if NI is forever in the backstop! It would boost this little corner of the UK. But another fudge may not help because a backstop is not forever, right?
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• #13611
I think the DUP are going to be asked to suck it up. How successful that strategy is...
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• #13612
Sure, a little bribery and a promise to "keep ulster safe from sodomy" and it is all good :/
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• #13613
Maybe announce a generous investment program for local production of bowler hats & flags.
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• #13614
That was good fun in 2016 when some gullible people believed it. Nice to see it doing the rounds again.
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• #13615
They'd have to be really gullible seeing that it is clearly a joke and implies as much.
Crazy that so many people interpret a light hearted joke and believe it as gospel.
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• #13616
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• #13617
Bloke being interviewed on the radio this meaning hit some top quality Brexit bingo
Return to Victorian standards
Put the Great back into Great Britain
Too many people
Bursting at the seamsIt was all there.
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• #13618
The futures bright...
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• #13619
But there are some great correlations...got love statistics.
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• #13620
There are too many people, those old people coming back from Spain and a burdening on the NHS and social housing.
Or medjia pick a mouth that gives the right answers.
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• #13621
So where are with we the engerland being grate?
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• #13622
Eh??? Return to Victorian standards? In what, sanitation? :):)
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• #13623
Povos being being forced to work, and sleep on a piece of rope.
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• #13624
Piano skirts, lest men see their legs and have impure thoughts.
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• #13625
Back to the good old days of a life expectancy between 30 and 41, industrial accidents, sickness, disease and plentiful opium for those that could afford it.
Grrrrrreat days.
We have to have over 60% UK originating content in anything that we produce for it to count as being made (rather than assembled) here.
Whilst a member of the Single Market then we can count other EU nations output as "ours", as we are all in the EU.
Once we leave then only those parts that are made here count for UK content - and almost nothing that I'm aware of other than substantially un-transformed agricultural goods meets that standard.
For e.g. we don't "make" a single road car that meets rules of origin requirements to be considered a UK product, post Brexit - if we leave the Single Market.
Labour have talked about "a" customs union, but they've ruled out the Single Market.
That (effectively) makes it impossible for anything that (say) Nissan produces here to qualify for any FTA that the UK might sign, as we don't make them, we assemble them.
Which means that every single Nissan (and Honda, and Jaguar, Land-Rover, Mini) would have tariffs applied even if we signed an FTA with the EU that zero-rated everything, as that everything means stuff we make.