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  • We have to have over 60% UK originating content in anything that we produce for it to count as being made (rather than assembled) here.

    Whilst a member of the Single Market then we can count other EU nations output as "ours", as we are all in the EU.

    Once we leave then only those parts that are made here count for UK content - and almost nothing that I'm aware of other than substantially un-transformed agricultural goods meets that standard.

    For e.g. we don't "make" a single road car that meets rules of origin requirements to be considered a UK product, post Brexit - if we leave the Single Market.

    Labour have talked about "a" customs union, but they've ruled out the Single Market.

    That (effectively) makes it impossible for anything that (say) Nissan produces here to qualify for any FTA that the UK might sign, as we don't make them, we assemble them.

    Which means that every single Nissan (and Honda, and Jaguar, Land-Rover, Mini) would have tariffs applied even if we signed an FTA with the EU that zero-rated everything, as that everything means stuff we make.

  • That would all be a huge issues, along wotb maintaning a non goids check borfer in NI which then wont happen, and I don't buy the line that Labour will get a special deal / one that doesn't cost jobs.

    But reading Oliver's links it seems that the party is saying several things (which I don't like) and the position isn't a 100% firm yet and open to grassroots and union influence.

    I am still not impressed with the waffle (others call this strategy) but also not sure the final endgame is no single market.

  • wotb maintaning a non goids check borfer

    Quoted for posterity. :)

  • Well, we might now be treated to Corbyn facing down the unions on Brexit.

    I reckon he knows that he'll win the GE early next year, the question is how well a UK comprising England, Wales, and the minor islands would fair, and how the border with Scotland would be managed.

  • Didn't at the last one.

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  • Times and the Grauniad this morning - seems to be a border in the Irish Sea that we're going to pretend isn't a border?

  • I am still waiting on more information on that...ideas to do checks at ferry ports (which are ALREADY done for animals...) were blocked by the DUP/Tories.

    Not so convinced either about the trusted trader scheme, how much will it cost and how easy will it be?
    And the ANPR cameras will be trashed on a semi-regular basis.

    And services still aren't covered and medicine...some companies have stopped expanding here and set up shop down South. So, maybe there won't be stockpiling and trouble (much) but still not sure why we are doing this.

    The NI brexit on a local paper didn't reply either, had to ask him 3 times and not a word. Fishing comes up again, but you don't need to Brexit to fix that.

  • Reading into this it's a border that is enforced at ports, and will require NI to be CU and SM, plus massive quantities of spin.

  • But that is the backstop that the Tories/DUP don't want.

    I would be pretty happy if NI is forever in the backstop! It would boost this little corner of the UK. But another fudge may not help because a backstop is not forever, right?

  • I think the DUP are going to be asked to suck it up. How successful that strategy is...

  • Sure, a little bribery and a promise to "keep ulster safe from sodomy" and it is all good :/

  • Maybe announce a generous investment program for local production of bowler hats & flags.

  • That was good fun in 2016 when some gullible people believed it. Nice to see it doing the rounds again.

  • They'd have to be really gullible seeing that it is clearly a joke and implies as much.

    Crazy that so many people interpret a light hearted joke and believe it as gospel.

  • Bloke being interviewed on the radio this meaning hit some top quality Brexit bingo

    Return to Victorian standards
    Put the Great back into Great Britain
    Too many people
    Bursting at the seams

    It was all there.

  • The futures bright...

  • But there are some great correlations...got love statistics.

  • There are too many people, those old people coming back from Spain and a burdening on the NHS and social housing.

    Or medjia pick a mouth that gives the right answers.

  • So where are with we the engerland being grate?

  • Eh??? Return to Victorian standards? In what, sanitation? :):)

  • Povos being being forced to work, and sleep on a piece of rope.

  • Piano skirts, lest men see their legs and have impure thoughts.

  • Back to the good old days of a life expectancy between 30 and 41, industrial accidents, sickness, disease and plentiful opium for those that could afford it.

    Grrrrrreat days.

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