• CAAD12 isn't going to fit 47mm 650b which means the geo is going to change quite significantly. And the geo (with 700c) is what he likes about it in the first place, and wants to recreate on the other bike! And CAAD12 doesn't have the mudguard mounts etc. that he wants

    650b in Arkose on the other hand might liven it up a little bit.

    I'm guessing that he wants ~73/73 angles, <1000mm wheelbase, short chainstays, but with 42mm tyres + mudguards, and not £2000. Never really got my head around BB drop but smaller than the 76mm on an Arkose is probably a criteria too.

    Another option might be steel CX race geo bike, and get some things brazed on for mudguards

  • @PhilDAS youre welcome to borrow my 650b 42mm wheelset to see how they fair on your Arkose if you like. Like I said they improved the ride of my CX/gravel bike (orlo) drastically

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