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  • Nobody knows unfortunately.

    It -can- still go to shit.

    Because the EU negotiates as a group and so if there is no withdrawal, there is no EU rights system and individual countries have to make decisions.

    Now I don't think it is too likely the EU will let it get this far [on citizens rights I expect them to honour at least something], but there are no guarantees and some EU goodies like pensions/healthcare may not apply. Unfortunately it is pie in the sky atm as citizen rights are not ringfenced in the negotiations.

    the 3 million / brits in europe groups may have more info.

    You could check spanish immigration law, maybe it is quite relaxed as it is for people outside the EU and you could apply and pass easily, I've no idea.

    Because if that is easy in the very worst case scenario if it is easy to get a visa perhaps it is worth the risk, because then whatever happens you should not have any issues with staying, I suppose, in a logical world.

    I don't want to worry you, but unfortunately nobody still knows! You don't have any Irish ancestry I take it?

  • Because the EU negotiates as a group and so if there is no withdrawal, there is no EU rights system and individual countries have to make decisions.

    How does that work? If they negotiate as a group, don't they have a common visa arrangements. Once you're in the Schengen area nobody is going to check your passport at internal borders, so won't there be a common EU policy on what UK citizens require in the way of a visa to get in?

  • " If they negotiate as a group, don't they have a common visa arrangements." Freedom of movement is not quite the same as a travel visa. There is something in the Brexit negotiations for Brits after Brexit, it means that you cannot work cross-border as easily, you are "tied" to the EU country that you came to before the transition ends.

    So if you go to Spain, you have to come back to Spain.

    There is a EU schema for certain roles, but if you want to immigrate and work as a cleaner after Brexit from what I know, ATM, you will fall under 3rd country immigration rules IF you got after the transition/there is no deal. As you are not an EU citizen anymore after Brexit so the FOM framework does no longer apply.

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