• So we (my wife and I) have been planning a move to Valencia, Spain for a year now, with a planned departure date of April 2019. We always worked to the idea that we would respect the status of EU citizens in the UK and vice versa until at least December 2019, which most experts agreed was likely under any transition agreement.

    Now, with no-deal an increasing threat on the horizon, how concerned should we be? We are approaching go/no-go in terms of letting out our house here for a year and selling/storing belongings etc., so need to start making a decision. It can't really all go to shit can it? And will we require normal visas or to use a visa waiver program if it does?

  • Nobody knows unfortunately.

    It -can- still go to shit.

    Because the EU negotiates as a group and so if there is no withdrawal, there is no EU rights system and individual countries have to make decisions.

    Now I don't think it is too likely the EU will let it get this far [on citizens rights I expect them to honour at least something], but there are no guarantees and some EU goodies like pensions/healthcare may not apply. Unfortunately it is pie in the sky atm as citizen rights are not ringfenced in the negotiations.

    the 3 million / brits in europe groups may have more info.

    You could check spanish immigration law, maybe it is quite relaxed as it is for people outside the EU and you could apply and pass easily, I've no idea.

    Because if that is easy in the very worst case scenario if it is easy to get a visa perhaps it is worth the risk, because then whatever happens you should not have any issues with staying, I suppose, in a logical world.

    I don't want to worry you, but unfortunately nobody still knows! You don't have any Irish ancestry I take it?

  • Because the EU negotiates as a group and so if there is no withdrawal, there is no EU rights system and individual countries have to make decisions.

    How does that work? If they negotiate as a group, don't they have a common visa arrangements. Once you're in the Schengen area nobody is going to check your passport at internal borders, so won't there be a common EU policy on what UK citizens require in the way of a visa to get in?

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