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  • Road bike geometry with gravel bike clearance, does it exist?
    I know people say consolidating bikes doesn’t work, however I have 2 bikes which I am completely happy with for their purposes, a caad12 disc for road riding and an Arkose for gravel and commute but I would like the arkose to feel more akin to an aggressive road bike, it sometimes feels a bit boaty and slow and I’d like the caad to be a bit comfier for long distance (bigger tyres).
    However it seems if you go for bigger tyred frames then you get slack geo and if you go for steep angles you get 28c max.
    I don’t have custom frame money also I’d prefer alu or carbon
    Think I want the moon on a stick.
    Road race geo
    42c tyre clearance
    Guard mounts
    Internal cabling
    Don’t need racks, don’t really need thru axle

  • What about that fancy weird gravel bike with the adjustable rake on the fork?

    Can't remember what it is. seemed a bit gimicky TBH

  • Genesis Datum has clearance for 38 tyres, road geometry, internal cable routing, mudguard eyelets..pretty happy with mine as a one for everything bike.

  • A pacer does this (I think?), maybe a little less clearance. Use that as the benchmark for geo?

  • Do what the pros do and buy a size smaller with big stem

  • Surly Midnight Special. It’s a fat Pacer.

    Steel throughout though.

    Maybe look for European brand cross frames? Ridley, Focus, Lapierre? I’m not a fan of low bbs on ‘fun’ bikes either.

  • How often do you actually ride gravel where trendy wide tyres are needed? Could you press the caad12 into commuting duties and just use the mtb for actual off road riding? 29ers can be pretty fast on the road with the sus locked out and tyres pumped up.

    I've made do with a road bike, mtb and Brompton for a bit and have most bases covered, but then I have little interest in cx or soft off-roading (soft-roading?).

  • carbonda
    i like the look of the cfr505
    they'll do custom stuff, e.g. extra bottle mount under DT is only $20

  • Pelago Sibbo would be pretty much this, but they don't make it anymore. I have 41mm Knards on mine and there's about 6mm of clearance. Cables are outside, also has di2 holes. Heavy though, Columbus Thron.

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