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  • Yeah, but that wouldn't be very 'on here'.

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    this goes some way to explaining why literally 99% of the UK Jewish community feel threatened by Corbyn's anti semitism,

    Would be interesting to see actual opinion polling on the issue. Though I do see that you've used "literally" right in front of the "99%".

    To be frank, I've seen and heard conflicting responses from members of the Jewish community.

    yet his supporters blithely shrug off these views as if they (and therefore, we) are unimportant.

    Yet this is not my experience. I've found the majority of the Labour party and broader left and liberal circles are aware, and concerned about AS in communities in general. I do see genuine frustration from the Jewish Labour community for a perceived lack of empathy 0r understanding about AS ...

    these appalling views.

    What exactly are these appalling views?  I agree that anti-semtism is a contemporary, real, palpable issue that needs to be stamped out. But personally I struggle with the claim that "antisemtism is rife in the Labour party".

    In typical white liberal fashion I can't claim I have witnessed it (outside of isolated incidents and overblown media narratives) but I agree I'm probably not in the best position to feel affected. This is about a much subtler subtext which can seem a little vague, and semantic. Not to say that less overt or extraverbial bigotry isn't appalling, but it's been clear that some of it is too nuanced and personal for many people to even perceive. I also feel that the Jewish communities have done a poor job at decoding and unpacking this for others.

    recent comments on 'Zionists' not understanding English irony have come to light because they feel that he is an anti semite.

    There is of course the prevelant broader narrative that you've been playing into your assertions around AZ being codified as AS. From my perspective (outside of the Jewish faith) there seems to also be pockets of incidents where this conflation is being made willfully by/or on behalf of the Jewish communities.

    If the semantics have shifted and the consensus within Jewish communities is now that "Zionist" is percieved to be interchangeable with "Jew", then maybe the Jewish communities should let everybody else know what words are fine to use to discuss Israel and Zionism in meaningful terms.

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