The Vegan Thread

Sex stereotyping really is bizarre.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/aug/28/men-vegetarian-meat-eating-social-shame

this general consensus that eating meat is manly fucks me off no end.
If its manly to pay stranger to put a bullet / knife into a baby sheeps head/neck then no thanks.
Aubergine for me.

You've got to be some kind of mug to be ashamed to order the vegi option in a restaurant... do The Guardian know their readers at all?

I'm intrigued, but what are your reasons for a vegan lifestyle?

I can live without torturing and killing animals, so why shouldn't I?

Oh man. This is strange but me and my sister were having exactly the same chat today.

She's been vegan for a few years now and I've always commented on how much she eats (yet stays very lean) and since going plant-based/ vegan around 6 months ago I've never not been hungry.

Quite honestly a lot of it is just willpower and not wanting to eat everything in sight. This becomes difficult though when you're exercising 6+ times a week.
The times when you really must eat something look to fruit or other low calory density foods.

I also did some reading online that said after around a year that feeling of always being hungry will dissipate.

You can live without torturing and killing animals, so why shouldn't you?

OT but similar to how I find attitudes towards men drinking certain drinks down the pub. Never my actual friends, but work mates I've found can be aggressively judgemental about a) not drinking beer, b) drinking something as innocuous as a gin & tonic

I enjoy a white wine spritzer on a hot day

I get this but glad to say it hasn't happened to me yet... I'm cutting down/saving for a road bike at the moment and have been drinking soda and lime instead of a few pints... it's so bloody expensive to drink good beer these days so I'm knocking it on the head for a while... and you can't beat a G&T, they obviously haven't tried one themselves!

Easy for me... I don't agree with how animals are kept and killed before being packaged up for someone to chow down on a faceless piece of meat, they're treated as commodities and are worth more than that... they are living, breathing animals after all that have feelings

Has anyone tried these? Have a mate who swears by them

https://groceries.iceland.co.uk/no-bull-burgers-vegan-quarter-pounders-2-x-113g-g-/p/72839

Yeah, I'm not normally into the 'fake meat' substitutes but they're actually really really good. I know Iceland have just launched some more products as part of this range too

Been meaning to try these out. Thanks for reminding me

road bike

What you getting?

The other responses are all about killing animals. The main reason for me is that it's better for the environment. Modern meat/dairy consumption is unsustainable if we want to avoid dangerous climate change, catastrophic ecosystem loss, etc.

So I'm not a "proper" vegan by some people's definitions. e.g. I don't care about getting "consent" from bees - I would rather eat honey than agave syrup flown over from Mexico, etc.

(Veganism is not enough to stop climate change, but meh) (Also I'm being flippant about bees; it's a complicated topic)

As the Vegan Society says: 'For people, animals, and the environment'--in that order. The first beneficiaries of veganism are humans.

'For people, animals, and the environment'

..or just because you hate plants!

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first red dragon pie of the season yesterday and today, good autumnal vegan fare

The first beneficiaries of veganism are humans

Is that your opinion?

Of course. How could it not be?

red dragon pie

How have I not seen this recipe. Duh. On the list now :)

How is it not animals?

Did anyone else get this email ?
https://mailchi.mp/8f5cc23e685c/calais-vegan-festival-cancelled-due-to-threats-of-violence-from-anti-vegans?e=ab3b0bdd92

I work with environmental technology, and most of that is focused on cleaning soil and water from contamination originating from animal agriculture or the intensive farming that is required to produce enough feed and food on a limited amount of land.
I also swore to do anything in my power never to get cancer after both my mom and mother in law had (and survived)it. Such a shit disease.

So in the beginning it was:

• Climate/environment
  
• Health
  
• Animals
  
  

Now it’s more like

• Health
  
• Animals
  
• Climate/environment
  
  

But still, if eating animal protein were healthy I wouldnt do it because of the cruelty. If clean meat comes, I won’t eat it because of health, and if animal protein production didn’t fuck up our planet, I still wouldn’t eat it because of the two above. It’s the convergent case for Veganism right there

Why would animals be the first beneficiaries of killing and abuse that begin with human intentions or actions? When we don't do these things, we are the first to benefit, as these intentions or actions demean us. Note that I didn't say that we're the biggest or the most important beneficiaries.