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  • you hitch your cart to a wagon, you're gonna cop shade from someone. like suggesting anyone with leftist views is a card carrying leninist i spose. i can't think of a time when things were never thus.

  • It's not the throwing of shade that bothers me, it's the weird backward logic that moderates willing to accept pragmatic compromise for the sake of making progress are somehow fratonising with the enemy. Moderates being anyone who doesn't immediately shout "Gammon" when a centre-right argument is given. It drowns out all sensible debate on a subject.

  • Massively oversimplified but is this linked with the idea of right-creep in politics over the past decades? In so much as it could be argued, that centre and centre-left moderates have given more ground in political discourse and policy making. If one ties this in with the millennial general feeling of disenfranchisement (figuratively speaking) then feeling that anyone willing to discuss a compromise with the right is a scab/neo-lib etc becomes the knee jerk reaction?

  • it's the weird backward logic that moderates willing to accept pragmatic compromise for the sake of making progress are somehow fratonising with the enemy

    Pragmatism is not something that belongs to "centrists". Aneurin Bevan had to be pragmatic to get the NHS from a dream to a reality, but he was nobody's centrist.

    A lot of people who call themselves centrists are just lazily indulging the golden mean fallacy. The kind of asshole who used to say "You're very confident in your opinion" when they had no response to an argument, but has now graduated to "I take the middle ground" and feels good about it, despite knowing fuck all about the actual ground.

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