US Politics

Not going to stick my head on the block for any politician but given the choice between McCain and Trump I know who I’d prefer.

Always informative to read your nuanced and considered posts.

PS Congrats on the GCSE results!

Not much of a choice really!

Good riddance.

Christ. We’re now in a place where the hard right has been so normalised that you can’t even call John McCain a cunt on LFGSS. The guy whose cynical appeals to the Republican lunatic fringe brought us Palin and eventually Trump. What a world.

ain't it just. "hey he's a one of us because he did some things that pissed on trump's batteries!"

I think it’s quite easy to have some respect for McCain’s life, he served his country and the people for most of his life after all, but you can still vehemently disagree with his political views. History will judge him as one of the facilitators of Trump though.

He dropped napalm on Vietnamese kids with dignity.

^^ yeah, this. Obviously his legacy can’t shake off responsibility for his bad decisions, but as politicians go, he was respectful of his political opponents and put principle above party, which seem to me to be traits that are worthy of some respect.

He wasn’t sure he wanted to keep on doing that by the time he was shot down. But anyway - is everything so one dimensional that you can’t respect the good things that people do as well as decrying the bad things?

He was a cunt of the highest magnitude, the good things about him are so rare, I think focusing on them is delusional.
May the warmonger rest in peace.

Do you feel like this about all people who served in the military or did McCain do something that particularly sets him apart from other people who fought in Vietnam?

Vietnam is the smallest part of his his cuntyness imo.
The warmonger thing comes out of his political life, he was pro every military intervention and war the US was involved in and promoted even more that never happened.
Add religious fundamentalism to that and boom: cunt of the highest magnitude

I think The Donald trumped McCains cuntitude.

They share their MoC (Magnitude of Cunt) rating, went different ways to get there though.

He opposed US intervention several times but fair enough. I see your point.

He was being lionised on the wireless yesterday for voting to not repeal Obamacare. That doesn't make him a hero, that makes him vaguely human.

The fourth paragraph makes for interesting reading (and does contrast with Mr Bone Spurs)

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/david-foster-wallace-on-john-mccain-the-weasel-twelve-monkeys-and-the-shrub-194272/

As you may notice it's an article dating back to April 2000.

Roger Stone needs some cash

https://www.stonedefensefund.com/

Also Roger Stone in an interview with The Political Insider:
“The special counsel is going to charge Donald Trump Jr. with lying to the FBI. Notice they’re not charging him for having an illegal meeting with a Russian at Trump Tower because there’s nothing illegal about that meeting.”
So Don the Con Jr. next to be indicted? Other bets?

It is becoming clear that Special Counsel Robert Mueller intends to frame Roger Stone for some bogus “offense” unrelated to Russian collusion, Wikileaks, or perhaps even the 2016 election.

Not too clear on US law, but they must be sailing close to the wind of either libel or fraud?

Aarrgh.. what is it with with those Yanks and their verbosity. It might be an excellent article for all I know, but I just can't set aside four hours of my life in order to find out.

When all this has blown over I expect the Clintons to take Trump to the cleaners.

Getting a decent sum out of Trump is like getting blood from a stone. What would stop him from a 7th bankruptcy?

Weren't Trump's previous bankruptcies corporate? The Clintons can sue him personally for defamation.