And getting train to West Wickham/hayes is quite easy.
This is what I had in mind, as about 34 miles with a stop and possible pub puts people back to the train in good time. People who live in deep SE London could meet us in Brasted for example @Klar
https://ridewithgps.com/routes/28425966
I was tempted to say 'pint?' in west wickham but you were balls deep in zone 5 .. the pub on the corner was open
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And getting train to West Wickham/hayes is quite easy.