Is it time to start calling out bad cyclists?

Quite similar to my bird call. LOL

Thanks @PhilDAS

To some people, I guess not

Proper knob in what looked like full maap kit at E&C this morning shouted and dangerously squeezed past guy who was dawdling in the bike path heading north by the bus stops. Dawdling guy seemed genuinely sorry and unaware. I get it, the ped was in the wrong but you don't have to be a complete cunt about it.

The amount of try hard strava cunts who try and overtake through there fucking boggles my mind, I've had people try to pass me while I'm making the tight curved right turn just before you reach the end. not to mention the fucking whoppers who think they can ride up the contraflow and just wedge themselves into non existent space at the lights crossing at the end.

likewise people who try to overtake in the segregated lane on the inside of the roundabout part going south then steal your exit line to try and force you into the parked busses.

of course these are the same people you then pass within about 30 seconds of being clear of E&C and back on open road because none of them can actually ride to save their fucking lives.

Absolut Knob Jockey blasting through the red lights along Crystal Palace parade near the bus garage this morning, almost taking me out as I crossed on the green man. There was no way he could have seen who was waiting at the lights as there was a big Tesco lorry parked in the near lane blocking his few. Gave a shout but get given the bird, headphone wearing wank womble.

The same things still happen abroad! I was in Spain a couple of weeks ago and saw a car completely cut up a cyclist when both were turning right on a busy cross section. Luckily he was alright as he saw the car from a mile off and braked just in time.

It was still a good holiday though, Lanzarote is a top destination for a cycling holiday.

loads of cyclists were undercutting a massive lorry who was trying to switch from the right hand to left hand turning lane on Waterloo bridge this morning. All they had to do was wait and let him through and they would have had the entire lane in front of the lorry to ourselves. Instead, after the lorry was changing lane, they all selfishly, and dangerously undertook the fella only to move back into the right hand turn lane; they were squeezing into the ever closing gap between the lorry and the road barrier. Understandably he was pretty angry: "you guys are literally nuts, are you trying to get yourselves killed...I can't see you when you do that." etc. I wasn't the only cyclist holing back who genuinely thought we were going to witness one of those horror stories involving bikes and lorries. Selfish idiots.

One of our new offices means I'm back on the Hipster Spice Route again- arghhhh!

So many twats undercutting, dangerous merges from the outside lane, mad crowding at the lights. Don't think I'll do many days a week here...

They may well be selfish, but many people genuinely don't know about the risk. It's one of those things you need to say over and over again to those whom you see doing it. You very rarely get a 'thank you'. In this case, perhaps they were just exploiting the fact that the driver seemed aware of them, in which case the risk is lower, but your charge of selfishness applies more directly.

Yes I think this hits the nail on the head here. Saying that, I don't know how one can think that squeezing in between a moving vehicle and a wall isn't going to be dangerous; and it certainly isn't going to be the lorry which comes off worse. A couple of the people waiting were saying that is was super risky but was given the classic London response of looking at you as if you don't exist haha. Just really doesn't help endear cycling to road users at all.

I can't see you when you do that

I'll take "blaming other road users for your vehicles blindspot" for $500, Alex.

Sounds like the driver was trying to change lanes and you expect other road users to let him do so? Nah mate, if you wanna change lanes and there's traffic in the other lane then you wait.

Aren’t blind spot mirrors mandatory these days on hgvs. Was the driver basically just shouting I’m driving an illegal lorry ?

Nah mate, if you wanna change lanes and there's traffic in the other lane then you wait.

I partially agree with this, but there is a modal difference: if one vehicle driver decides to stop and allow the lorry to change planes then all other vehicles behind it have to wait, since it blocks the lane into which the lorry wants to change.

With bicycle traffic this doesn't follow as subsequent bikes can just nip through. It takes a lot of bikes to block a lane. (This is usually a good thing!)

Once the cycle traffic density reaches a certain point, such as Waterloo bridge at commute time, the lorry driver is very restricted in available options.

I'm not sure of what the best strategy is for the lorry driver in these circumstances. Probably suck it up and wait for a long time, with all attendant increase in frustration and ill feeling toward cycle traffic. Oliver?

But it's not "traffic in the other lane" is it? It's filtering, and in my opinion, the highway code doesn't take London peak time into account when outlining "dos and don'ts" of filtering.

Ultimately, yes, with filtering bikes and motorcycles, that lorry needs to wait, but until someone gives way to the driver of the lorry, it could be waiting a long time. Which is going to cause a bigger issue. Then, like @mashton says, there's nothing forcing all filterers to give way just because one is, due to the size of bikes.

Realistically though, it sounds like this is more of a case of a bunch of cyclists using the LH lane to undertake the lorry, moving from RH lane to LH lane and then back to RH lane, which would put them at fault, because can you class it as filtering if there's nobody in the LH lane?

I’d hate to have to drive a lorry through London.

I'd hate to live in a world where driving a lorry through London is necessary/permitted.

Err you do.

then permit it outside of peak rush hours when you are less likely to come into conflict with vulnerable road users.

I'd like to believe this would work but I can't see how.
Are there examples where this has been done or tested?

ironically, i think there already is the Lorry Control Scheme that bans vehicles over 18 tonnes from entering certain bits of LDN betwixt 9pm and 7am. not that that helps.

Ultimately cyclists have to consider themselves traffic. And while you might be able to sift through the highway code until something appropriate comes up, it's also just good sense/polite to allow an awkward vehicle get on with their journey.

There are many circumstances when I'd be of the opinion that the lorry driver is a cunt just for being there, but mid rush hour, massively overloaded junction it just makes sense to hold back for the 30 seconds required to allow the maneuver to be completed.

(Proper segregation of course negates these problems...)

Yeah - you win the argument and your journey is a few seconds shorter. You lose the argument however....

He was being let through by a bus in the right hand lane but the cyclists who wanted to turn right just kept going through the gap created for the lorry by the bus. It was just selfish. No higher moral purpose like holding up the highway code ;) At peak time on waterloo bridge, especially with yesterday's clusterfuck on Aldwych, that lorry would have never been able to move until the last cyclist went through (which would have been ages). It would have unnecessarily held both lanes of traffic when all the cyclists had to do was wait 5 seconds.

this is better than my explanation!

Bike deliveries, smaller vans, delivery by boat.

Some stuff physically won't fit in a transit van because it can't be broken up. But not much.