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Many can avoid going into the ASL but unless there's a specific offence (and education) about ever avoiding ending up stopped in an ASL there's no point getting het up about it as no-one is going to care as much as you do.
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They're just another example of all the 'small' elements of road layout that just don't work and are slightly annoying. The approach seems to be 'if you can stop before the ASL that's nice, but don't worry about it if it's too much trouble'. I'm not determined to use ASLs, and it's not the biggest concern, I just find them pointless if they don't mean anything.
chris0
If it is possible for drivers to avoid going over a stop line at a junction without an ASL then why can't they avoid going into an ASL? I think we just assume sometimes that they can't help it because the junctions busy or whatever but surely you just treat the ASL itself as a stop line until you know you can make it out of a junction?