That Corbyn fella...

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  • Yeah, he often looks a bit bad when somebody crops something that he said to a mere 36 seconds, divorces it from the wider context of the interview, and then uploads it to a right wing blog

  • Yes, it’s obviously been done to maximise damage. If it weren’t for Boris going for full Bannon it might have gotten more attention than it did, although it’s still burbling away in the background, so we’ll see if it gets vomited back into the news cycle again.

  • The extremely unpleasant Alex Wickham looks to be the "reporter" on this (it was uploaded to his youtube account, anyway). He's got a long history of publishing distortions and outright fabrications to fit an agenda.

    Buzzfeed Politics have just rewarded him with a shiny new job, so that's nice!

  • Yeah, he does seem to be a bit of a journalistic hatchetman. I wonder if the reasoning behind the Buzzfeed gig was similar the NYT’s penchant for hiring tendentious conservative columnists for ‘balance’....

  • Fuck alone knows. Hopefully he'll tell so many lies that he gets fired within a couple of months. I've found Buzzfeed News to be pretty decent and fair, so I'm fascinated to find out wtf they're thinking by putting this spiv on their senior politics team. Hard to see how it will end well for him or them.

  • Buzzfeed Politics is a big pile of steaming poop so (regardless of leanings) they see Wickman as a natural fit?

  • Are they that bad? They're not my first choice of news outlet (or even my third or fourth) but they always looked fairly even-handed to me.

    Or am I just assuming their politics arm is similar to whoever it is who does the investigative long reads, that aren't necessarily political?

  • Their politics feed is mainly clickbait pap - it’s not the same team as the investigations team, which is indeed very good.

  • Lordy, I didn't realise. That does explain why they've hired him - those sweet, sweet righteous alt-right and outraged leftist clicks are going to be like a can of fizzy lemonade to a hive of angry wasps

  • That's a good summary I think.

  • gotta take the heat off johnson somehow, a man who has gone out of his way to prove he is the leader this country deserves.

  • "I did not lay a wreath" There's a photograph of him literally holding a wreath. It's well known that he supports freedom fighters, it's very popular among his base.

  • What the fuck is he holding? Looks like veg

  • It's an allusion to how he was photographed with a large marrow a few years back.

  • Apart from anything else, I'm surprised at the readiness of respondents to admit to holding these ugly racist views

  • those questions are comically leading. in fact, it looks photoshopped.

  • I can't find any trace of it on the yougov website, so yes, it may well be fabricated.

    edit: 2017 results compiled from this, which certainly backs up claims from Corbyn's supporters that "it's worse in the tory party"
    Whether the tories being worse offers any solution to the problem is open to debate.

    https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/bs0i5dmt7s/CampaignAgainstAntisemitismResults_170803_JewishOpinions.pdf

  • It's taken from surveys commissioned as part of this:

    https://antisemitism.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/Antisemitism-Barometer-2017.pdf

    See page 19:

    POLITICAL PARTIES
    “Do you feel that any political parties are too tolerant of antisemitism among their MPs,
    members and supporters?”

    For two years, more than 4 in 5 British Jews have considered the Labour Party to be harbouring antisemites in its ranks. The level of criticism of the Labour Party stood out starkly against that levelled at other parties, however, over 40% of British Jews also consistently considered the UK Independence Party and the Green Party to be deficient in tackling antisemites in their ranks.

    [...]

    Labour Party supporters are less likely to be antisemitic than other voters, so the cause of British Jews’ discontentment with the Labour Party must be the way that it has very publicly
    failed to robustly deal with the antisemites in its ranks. This means that the Labour Party has fallen out of step with its core supporters, who are generally less likely to hold antisemitic
    beliefs.

  • I think that the argument of 'its worse in the Tory party' is at best irrelevant and and worst an excuse for people closing their ears to anti semitism. There is a clear issue with it in the Labour party and it has come to the fore under Corbyn's leadership. Pointing at the Tories and their institutional racism is not the answer.

    Its sad that at a time when the Tory party are similarly failing to deal with institutional racism in their ranks (eg a reluctance to withdraw the whip from Boris Johnson), the Opposition don't really have a moral leg to stand on due to their institutional issues with racism.

    That's on Corbyn

  • I agree that any deflection is not the way forward. this needs to be dealt with as soon as possible.
    But as that New Yorker article stated - who can see a way where this is possible?
    Its clear that a large proportion of labour members, and JC himself, want to ensure that there are no restrictions on criticism of Israel (which surely is the point of the IHRA revisions).
    Who should back down? I can't see any result that accepts a compromise being acceptable to either side at this late stage.

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