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• #2
Lowered asking price to £325
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• #3
tempting!
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• #4
How heavy is it? I am tempted, but am in Amsterdam...
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• #5
I would get in soooo much trouble if I bought this. What are the dimensions like? How long does it take to heat up?
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• #6
Haha! Asking for forgiveness is easier than for permission @BCarley :p
I usually let it heat up for 15 mins or so.Dimensions are;
235 x 290 x 340 mm
9.2 x 11.4 x 13.4 inAnd Weighs 14kg
At the moment, I'd rather do a local pick up @graunch as it is pretty heavy and I don't have a suitable box. But if it doesn't sell I may have to go down that route...
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• #7
ok cool. Let me know if it comes to that
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• #8
Adam. I'm seriously interested. But whilst I'm a coffee lover OM a coffee machine novice. Consequently I'm going in blind here. I checked out info on the Pic and though CHRIST! So complex. So can I just easily make good coffee and look after this machine without an engineer?!?? Btw I'm in Brixton on Sunday so could pick up. Cheers Mel
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• #9
Not the Pic, the PID... See what I mean?
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• #10
Sure, the PID does look a bit mental to be fair! But it actually makes it easier to pull good shots (one of the reason I installed it).
There's literally one button to 'go'
It pre-infuses for a few seconds which pre-wets the coffee
Then pulls the shot (25 seconds I think I set it to)
Then it stops when the countdown timer is done.Check out this vid
starting at 55 seconds.If you want to steam milk, flick one of the big switches to let it raise the boiler temp for a few seconds then you're good to go
Maintenance is easy, you just need descale it with solution once every few months to clean the inside of the boiler.
I'm actually up in Manchester this weekend but back Sunday evening if you want to come and check it out.
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• #11
Does the PID do the pre-infuse?
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• #12
Nice. I kinda wanna downgrade my plumbed-in S24 back to a smaller tank-fill or a little dual boiler but it's easier to leave it be :). What are you changing to?
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• #13
I've gone with a dual-boiler Rocket - but still running off the water tank. I might plumb it one day, but too much effort right now.
Yes, the PID does the pre-infuse @Howard.
It's basically acting as a timer in this regard - on for a few seconds, off for a few seconds, on for 25 seconds to brew the shot, off again. -
• #14
It's a yes from me. Incoming PM
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• #15
Can I just add that I have absolutely no idea what any of you are on about?
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• #16
Coffee = srs bisniss
But in layman's terms it's a high quality consumer espresso machine fitted with a smart digital temperature gauge that's then wired in to boiler element control in the place of a thermo switch. The digital gauge is both more accurate and faster to react than a thermo switch and is also able to 'learn' patterns of throttling the heating element to maintain a constant water temperature whilst pulling a shot.
Yeah layman's terms.
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• #17
Well if you put it like that, I'm interested if @MetalMelly doesn't take it.
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• #18
I couldn't have put it better myself :p
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• #19
I kind of wanted it but I have a Classic (original) and I don't treat my coffee well enough to make the best use of that PID shiz.
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• #20
You don't treat it well enough BECAUSE you don't have a PID. Buy it.
I recently upgraded and so my v3 Silvia is up for sale.
It really is a great machine, and without doubt one of the best domestic machines for under a grand.
With the PID installed it takes it to another level... (see here or here if you're interested in more details).
...But it basically gives the machine a super accurate temperature control for pulling shots as well as maintaining a constant steam pressure for milk frothing - no need to temperature surf.
This one also has the pre-infusion feature and auto extraction timer.
The machine cost me about £450 a few years ago and add another £200 for the PID.
Comes with original portafilter and an upgraded flat shower screen
Looking for £375 and ideally a local pick up (Brixton)
New price £325
Give me a shout if you have any questions or want to come and check it out.
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