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@frank9755 the 8 is more reliable than the 11 as it’s greased rather than oil bath. They have their place, on hybrids/Dutch bikes/commuter folders... they are all inefficient though and don’t handle watts. I killed a nexus 8 in a few months of commuting. Mrs TM has an affine 8 on her tourer and it has been great.
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I use an eight speed for commuting. It's a great hub, but it's already lunched one set of innards after about 8,000km, so I wouldn't regard them as reliable. It's OK as a commuter hub, but I don't think I'd want to race on it. Ironically, although the Rohloff is expensive, it would be cheaper than a high end derailleur set up!
Alex_B
Alfine hubs are famed for their unreliability. But they are much cheaper than a Rohloff so don't totally destroy the price of a new bike fitted with one.