EU referendum, brexit and the aftermath

Good, so we can rule that one out, assuming you're being truthful.

@Jeez returns!

No one cares...

play the ball not the man, people.

Try harder and be a human being

Would ask you to do the same, as for some reason you think it's OK that Brexit = no medication, which a lots of us rely on, some even to stay alive.

It's our very own Edgelord.

Intense.

If only he could learn English it might be easier to communicate.

For someone with nothing to say you certainly bang on and on and on.

Why don’t you try explaining how diabetics in the U.K. are going to receive Insulin next year? In detail- something which would appear to be like sunlight to a vampire when it comes to Brexists such as yourself.

I have £5,000 that says you can’t.

So the best answer anybody has is 'stockpiling' its not really all that reassuring from my prospective I and don't have an friends or family that need insulin. I'm not sure that answer would set anybodies mind at rest.

Does insulin last a long time? I guess it's fairly resilient. Presumably there must be other drugs where 'stockpiling' won't work .

I wonder how they're planning to triage these stockpiles; I can't imagine they've put a lot of work into thinking about it.
I wonder how and where they'll store them, since I don't imagine we currently 'stockpile' the entire nation's supply of drugs anywhere - it must be a pretty impressive pharmaceutical facility they've built.
I wonder how long they've been planning what drugs will be needed, and how much of each to hold, and how to hire the technicians and management to store and handle them properly - it must have been a fairly significant epidemiological feat .

Or I wonder if it's just another ill-thought out, off the cuff soundbite spat out by someone who had to come up with a quick answer.

Do you really see TMay compromising on her self-imposed Red Lines?

Well her career has pretty much been defined by compromise so...

I wonder when was last time the UK needed to think about stockpiling stuff ? WW2 perhaps ? Surely even the most zealoted Brexit supporters must be questioning where it's all gone wrong.

And silly me, my brother in law needs insulin, he voted brexit, he's talked to me about blue passports and sovereignty but not where he's insulin is coming from next year. I'll ask him next time I see him.

Sanofi announced this morning that they are stockpiling medicines in the event of no deal.

They are increasing their 'stockpile' from 4 weeks to 14. I don't find that very reassuring. What happens after three and a half months?

Fail to prepare, prepare to f̶a̶i̶l̶ die

A new wave of austerity looms (courtesy of Brexit)?

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/49cc0fc6-950d-11e8-821b-8d0d10bd0d40

(No, as a non-subscriber I can't read the full article either, but you get the gist...)

So user/number is a coward as well as a crank.

In happier news, the Lord Mayor of The City predicts only five to thirteen thousand financial sector job losses (assuming a transition agreement is in place by March). Fantastic that we can redeploy them picking strawberries on day one of Brexit year zero.

Article from the Economist suggesting a second referendum could also go completely tits up.

https://www.economist.com/britain/2018/07/19/a-second-brexit-referendum-is-back-in-play

asking for polite discourse

Sounds like PC gone mad to me

I had an online discussion last week on another forum with someone who had voted for Brexit because he was worried about left-wing facism. I vehemently held the position that the very concept was fabricated by the right wing press.

Reading the last few pages here I’m seriously reconsidering that position.

Sanofi (a private company, not UK.gov) are stockpiling, which answers the question. It seems to be relatively easy to increase the size of the stockpile. Either way, a solution of sorts exists (whether you are satisfied or not with it). But a stream of personal ad hominem attacks based on fear of something that the poster was seeking to discuss is not ok in a mature, respectful discussion, and will never change anything. Like it or not you’re part of the problem if you can’t see this.

Naively I'd hoped that LFGSS might have followed the Michelle Obama maxim - when they go low we go high.

If you give up the high ground and just rage then all you are doing is letting off steam and the venue for doing it quickly becomes an echo chamber. Echo chamber politics are why we have Brexit.

#pissinginthewind

I had an online discussion last week on another forum with someone who had voted for Brexit because he was worried about left-wing facism. I vehemently held the position that the very concept was fabricated by the right wing press.

Reading the last few pages here I’m seriously reconsidering that position.

Sanofi (a private company, not UK.gov) are stockpiling, which answers the question. It seems to be relatively easy to increase the size of the stockpile. Either way, a solution of sorts exists (whether you are satisfied or not with it). But a stream of personal ad hominem attacks based on fear of something that the poster was seeking to discuss is not ok in a mature, respectful discussion, and will never change anything. Like it or not you’re part of the problem if you can’t see this.

User93364:

• You are all remoaning bedwetters
  LFGSS:
  
• Get fucked
  Freddo:
  
• My god they were right, AntiFa is the devil!
  

Sanofi (a private company, not UK.gov) are stockpiling, which answers the question.

How?

A stockpile needs distribution, and to be constantly refreshed. One of the critical aspects of Brexit that the government has identified is fuel logistics. Why is this important? Because it's no use having Insulin in a warehouse if the delivery fleet has no fuel to distribute it.

Does this mean that there will be no insulin anyway? No, of course not - what it means, most likely, is that it will be scarce, and will therefore have to be tightly controlled (rationed), and access will therefore be hard.

What if you rely on your car to get to the distribution? Then you may be in trouble, and in this case trouble=coma and death.

Also, a thousand other things will be going wrong at the same time, so whilst we might be able to cope with 1, 5 or even 10 of them simultaneously, I give no credit to the theory that we'll be able to cope with them all.

The government will be busy blaming everyone else, for a start.

Sanofi (a private company, not UK.gov) are stockpiling, which answers the question. It seems to be relatively easy to increase the size of the stockpile

You're probably right on this - I don't know. I'd suggest that it might be relatively easy for a company to do so with their drugs - after all, once they run out then they just won't have any to sell, which would be bad for their bottom line but not much else. Increasing inventory until you can't fit any more in the fridges certainly seems a pragmatic solution by a single company.

But for the UK govt to claim to want to do so in order to protect an entire population (which might include quantities of drugs that might be unprofitable for a company to stockpile and which I guess are all manufactured by different producers, and whose rates of usage the govt probably don't know) seems to me to be a more difficult problem. I guess they could just rely on their suppliers being pragmatic and hopefully doing it for them...

I had an online discussion last week on another forum with someone who had voted for Brexit because he was worried about left-wing facism. I vehemently held the position that the very concept was fabricated by the right wing press.

Reading the last few pages here I’m seriously reconsidering that position.

Sorry, I keep coming back to this - it's a truly remarkable take. Honestly, it's a thing of beauty.

This is an example of your projection, I don’t see where he said this.

I will be antifa till the day I die. The question is: are you a facist?