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  • How easy/cost-effective is it to change out M handlebars for flatter ones? Is it only the height that's different between M/S or is the reach different too?

    There seem to be a lot more cheap second hand M models for sale than S.

  • The basics are this;

    M stem is shorter with less reach than an S, so fitting a flat bar to an m type is pretty low, lower than an s type.

    You can go lower, the easiest option is the Joseph kuosac mid rise bar, cheap, no need to cut cables because the bars are wider, so you space the levers/shifters out and the cables are fine.

    Otherwise, new stem (you can only have these fitted by a dealer, not just buy one u less used) and bars and cables... £130 stem, £30 bars, £10 a cable kit

    M types were made before s types, they are generally more popular, people who can’t decide, or who are guided to be “normal” or “average” buy m types, they are in the middle, relaxed but not a h type... people also think m types have better resale’s, which isn’t true because there are more m types around so the supply demand ratio means s types are more sellable if anything

  • Thanks for the tip.

    Based on my calculations from the diagrams available on the internet, the M stem is ~260mm and the S stem is ~320mm. So if I run flat bars, it'll be 60mm lower than a stock S setup, or I can run the 100mm mid-rise bars and have it 40mm higher. Does that sound about right? Also, does running M stem + mid rise bars affect the fold?

    Is it possible to just trim the cables or do bromptons use some kind of proprietary cable?

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