EU referendum, brexit and the aftermath

Because it sounds like he encouraged some MPs who had been marked as part of a pair to vote (because the numbers were expected to be very tight), and thereby broke a long-standing tradition that pairing agreements are respected.

https://www.parliament.uk/site-information/glossary/pairing/

(I'm not aware that it has anything to do with Hoey)

It is fine if he doesn't like people that don't work very hard, but basing economic policy on liking/not liking people is not something I am a huge fan of.

Busting your balls taking care of your family doing 3 shitty jobs with no benefits and worrying about your pension and healthcare, and not being able to upskill due to lack of time/money is not exactly the situation he is in.

If he backed his position with cheaper training and childcare for upskilling for working people/apprecenticeships for over 25s I'd have some respect, but it feels a little too much like shitting from a great height to me based on his voting record on benefits etc.

I'm not defending him - more just that I think the background helps to understand what his views might be, which I think is relevant.

I don't agree with his views.

I'd imagine that this experience (working somewhere that values very hard work) probably makes him less tolerant / understanding of those who don't want to work til they bleed, though, which is likely part of the problem

Ah, the "self-made man" type of Tory.

Fair enough, I am not sure how he would be able to understand the situation of other "hard workers" that are not like him on loads of £££ :)

He may "hard work" the UK into losing workers rights rather... O_o

I think what this shows is that May is simply dishonourable--she's trying to cling on to power by any means necessary and doesn't shy away from foul play. See lying to the 'rebels' etc. If she'd played with a straight and not a crooked bat, she'd be long gone.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-44880968

"Their meeting comes as the European Commission is instructing other EU states to prepare for a no-deal Brexit.

The commission paper warns that failure to reach a deal would have a considerable impact on European business and citizens."

https://ec.europa.eu/info/publications/preparing-withdrawal-united-kingdom-european-union-30-march-2019_en

And no inflation linking for pensions abroad anymore [though UK residents in the commonwealth do NOT get these, which you could argue is unfair! That's due to the UK btw]

https://infacts.org/hard-brexit-could-threaten-british-peoples-pensions/

Nothing has been yet discussed about finance and passporting...16 months in. But it's OK Mogg now has a holding in the Republic of Ireland!

http://fedtrust.co.uk/mrs-may-has-no-choice-but-to-obey-jacob-rees-mogg/

^ good read

May's Chequers White Paper reviewed & rejected by Barnier:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/jul/20/france-minister-nathalie-loiseau-brexit-concessions-theresa-may-commons

The BBC keeps going on about May rejecting the EU's backstop "proposal". It's not a fucking "proposal", it's a legally binding agreement that Davis & May signed up to months ago.

I used to be sceptical of these claims of BBC pro-Brexit bias, now I'm not so sure

Welcome to your own circle jerk! What fucking drivel xx

I’m not going to watch the video, do you have enough grasp of the subject to describe it?

Try again in English.

If you can’t articulate your argument and instead rely on posting YouTube clips to make your point for you then we’re not going to leave the line in terms of the race to educate you before Brexit day.

So until you can make your own arguments, get fucked.

it’s not 2am here, although I’m not sure that your suggestion of acceptable swearing hours is an actual thing.

Anyway, you’ve managed a single word, and it’s clearly important to you because you have used capital letters. Maybe try a second word, then a third, fourth etc?

It’ll be no deal or no Brexit, is what I think you are saying, due to he impossibility or getting anything done now that fanatics have come to dominate Parliament.

FWIW I agree. Question is how much damage accrues to the economy and the country over the next few months- the more bleak the future looks then potentially the better the chance of cancellation. Ultimately therefore we need Mogg to keep forging ahead with his plan to never have to pay tax ever again, and damn the consequences- he’s the best friend that Remain has, at this point.

i find it deeply saddening to know that our nations' fortunes are being collectively dictated by bloviating, intellectually dishonest dimwits like you.

generations of advantages.

Please tell me more?

He can’t explain, you need to watch the video!

our litter corner of the world

We want a 'Brexit' so we can litter ALL WE WANT!!!1! :)

I do accept it'll likely be sketchy'ish, for a very limited time afterwards.

Sketchy? It gonna be fucked.

I rely on the EU for medical access when it come to my disability, i do not want to pay the prices of being born with a disability and people like Mogg sitting comfortably with almost no impact in their privileged lifestyle.