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  • I think it is a big issue and if what you say is true, then it’s a real shame.

    The volume of sales shouldn’t matter, their manufacturing should. Madison are pretty slow on the warranty guff as well. If they know something is going to be repeatedly shit, they are daft to release it.

    I pretty much used to ride Campag exclusively and found it well made and robust. It only went to shit when the 11speed came out and it was obviously (to me) manufactured far more cheaply. It kept failing, I got it warrantied, I got bored and went back to 10speed Ti Record.

    I only bought Etap because when my Eastway arrived it had 10s apex on it and over the 5years I abused it it never missed a beat. Etap hasn’t so far either.

    Basically I’m just pissed off with the groupset and its all in the eye of the beholder anyway.

    Someone will get a bargain on here when I flog it anyway 😂

  • Interested as to how good etap is. I'm tempted on a new build although have (older) Shimano hydro di2 at the moment and it is pretty good... Should I take the plunge? Will need hrd as I'm going discs; are they as good as Shimano?

  • I have the rim brake version, but overall it’s excellent. I also have no experience of Di2

    Set up is quite straight forwards on Etap if you take your time and since then I haven’t had it miss a beat.

    I used it on Paris Roubaix with silly carbon chainrings and it performed faultlessly. Shifting is instant and positive and most importantly, the LED on the rear mech looks cool at night

  • I’ve been using eTap, rim brake version, for over two years now and it hasn’t missed a beat. Seriously impressed with how reliable it has been. I’ve also used (and am about to again) Di2 and I much prefer eTap, it’s less fiddly to change gear and more intuitive to use.

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