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  • Given how far Wiggins rode, in sub-optimal conditions, I think it’ll take a better rider than Beukeboom to beat it.

    Great name though 👌

  • Likewise I don't think he'll beat it, although it'd be good to see how folks respond if he did.

    Would love to see Dowsett have another go...

  • I thought Dowsett was going to have another go?

  • He was in mcr Jan/Feb time but nowt came of it afaik

    https://www.lfgss.com/comments/13419948/

  • Dowsett has left Movistar, new team might open up another hour record attempt?

  • Ha if only I had seen this earlier I could have asked Dion about this, he was at the Dublin track international. He seemed like a really nice guy, had a bit of an off in the madison on saturday, but rode on the Sunday.

  • The Velodromo Bicentenario in Aguascalientes is situated 1,800 metres above sea level

    Isn’t this a considerable disadvantage?

  • Soz, posted as soon as I saw it on twatter.

  • Thinner air? No. It's easier to push an object through it.

    Well, yes and no. If you can deal with the altitude (or do the attempt soon after arrival) you avoid the reduced oxygen thingie. #technicalshit

  • Ha don't be, I should have googled all their names really. I even remember reading the cycling weekly article late last year after reading that.

    There was a few riders last year as well who I didn't realise had interesting palmares' until it was over.

  • Cool.. Would be good to get the record attempts kicked back into life.

    Plus - this is kinda ready for an update..
    https://themassifcentral.co.uk/products/the-hour-record-wiggins


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  • I meant the oxygen pressure which is lower at 1800 meters above sea level compared to London where Wiggins took his record.

    It is known that human body performs best at the altitude equal to the sea level.
    If we were talking about taking 400m sprint record at that kind of altitude, lowered resistance of air (due to lower pressure) would be advantageous. However,in an hour record the effect of lowered oxygen level will be predominant.

    Remember summer olympics in 1968? Well, I don’t. But it took place in Mexico City, which is elevated to 2250m. Most short sprint and jump records were set there at altitude. Not so much for endurance disciplines.

    Wonder why they choose a Vélodrome at 1800 above the sea level.

  • it took place in Mexico City, which is elevated to 2250m. Most short sprint and jump records were set there at altitude. Not so much for endurance disciplines.

    But Moser set the hour record there, beating Merckx' record also set in Mexico City. The power reduction from lower oxygen pressure is more than offset by the lower drag.

  • If they both took it at the same altitude I can’t really see the logic here.

  • Unless you meant that Wiggins is a bad ass taking the record in London and that the location of Aguascalientes is actually advantageous.

    Then again, how come you’re so sure that lower drag > oxygen level. Do you have something to support this?

  • I can’t really see the logic here

    The logic is that both of them knew that going to Mexico was the right thing to do.

  • Okay, I agree with that. But it’s 2018 and not 1972 and the bikes/skin suits are much more “aero”.

    Did Merckx and Moser know what they’re doing and Wiggins just liked the fact London Vélodrome is next door to his house?

  • Tester is right. If you can deal with the altitude (something Wiggins admitted was a weakness of his) then the lower air density at altitude outweighs the loss in power.

    Aero drag is proportional to the square of power remember.

  • Did Merckx and Moser know what they’re doing and Wiggins just liked the fact London Vélodrome is next door to his house?

    Wiggins calculated that he could beat the record in London, and that it would be far more lucrative to beat it by 1km there than by 2km in Mexico

  • Do you have something to support this?

    At 6000'/1800m, FTP is 89-93% of sea level value, but air density is only about 83% of sea level density. Drag is directly proportional to air density.


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  • an hour record the effect of lowered oxygen level will be predominant.

    If that was true, Hour records wouldn't be set there and future attempts wouldn't be planned there.

  • Yes and if "it's 2018" why are people going to Mexico if it's going to be slower?
    Yes, Wiggins wanted the record in London, essentially his home track. He could've gone faster at altitude and if he really wanted to nail it would've waited for better weather rather than just picking a date and filling stands.

  • £50 per ticket at least * how many?

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