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  • Yes, PTTJ is way way way too warm for anything about 8 degrees, for me anyway. Have you considered a wind jacket? Very nice for those chilly days when the temp is a bit middling. Have you considered an insulated gilet? Probably the most versatile piece of cycling kit ever made IMO. Insulated gilet with a wool jersey and merino arm warmers is delightful.

  • I live in the Peaks where a constant threat of rain hangs over 95% of rides year round.

  • Even better. It's great in the wet. Keeps you warm and dries very quickly but due to the fact there's no membrane, it doesn't get sweaty. Problem with Gabba/Shadow is they can only really be used in 'changeable' weather. The gilet can be used when it's Baltic outside, as well as changeable. But that's just my opinion.

  • Lusso do a rain jersey now. Looks relatively good value.

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