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Of course. Thanks. And thanks @edscoble
I'd figured out it would make sense to use the bottom water bottle cage with an adapter to move the cage lower. I'd already ordered the adapter (oops) but this makes much more sense.
Is there a recommended bladder? I have no idea what I'm doing but am planning to be doing some touring in the second half of July so need to get things sorted (and Restrap custom frame bags take three weeks).
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If you were only thinking of getting a half framebag, definitely don't bother with custom plenty of good reasonably priced options in that space that'll fit any bike.
While bladders are good, it only makes sense with full framebags where you can get the water weight low down by the bottom bracket.
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I use this one.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00AHBKCK0/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1The shape works well, think I've got a larger capacity one though.
One thing to think about is if you use SIS tablets or similar. I need to due to dehydration problems, so I do also carry another bottle in a bar holster.
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It's a good question r.e. bladder, I have a handful and the shape can be awkward, the Camelbak one while is a brilliant hydration pack, have a massive cap which need to be store vertical in a frame bag.
The one @cake recommended (Platypus) look idea to be stored in a frame and wish I have gone for that one.
A 1 litres bladder is recommended, max 2 litres as that's way more than 3 bottles worth!
Echoing's @laner a custom frame bag is only worth it if you're going full frame bag, half frame bag already work for nearly all of the road bike out there.
I have been touring in the last week with a 2 litres bladder, and it was great to be able to drink without being concern about rationing the water from the bottle.
I'm gonna do a lots more research on this, it would be great if a company produced a bikepacking hydration pack that sit neatly in the frame bag.
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edscoble
I just take off my bottle cages when I'm touring, put a bladder in the frame bag. I carry more water then I would with two bottles and have more space in the frame bag then I would with a half.