Which Groupset?

Also new chainring splines mean more sales of replacment rings as less 3rd party options

Some sort of licensing issue preventing Shimano from using XD apparently. I'm alright with it actually if it becomes the new standard, changing a freehub is for the most part not too difficult and I would definitely make use of a 10t cassette. As long as they produce 11-32s and other normal cassettes as well I'd have it on all my bikes

Has anyone seen a date for the new 105 group yet? Searching around bits and pieces are starting to come on sale but no full groups as yet?

Some sort of licensing issue preventing Shimano from using XD apparently.

Seems unlikely. SRAM offer a free licence to use the XD proprietary IP, provided you sign a copy of a licence agreement.

Just what I read in an article somewhere at the time, you clearly know more about it than me!

Looking to buy a SRAM Rival 22 GXP groupset with flat mount disc brakes but struggling to find anywhere that sells the whole group?
Only place I've found is here: https://r2-bike.com/SRAM-Rival-22-complete-Group-2x11-GXP-for-hydraulic-Disc-Brake
but the brake set up is euro.. does that matter or can I just switch the hoses/cables round?

Also would it work out cheaper/easier to just buy all the components separately?

You can switch the hoses around , it's quite the job but doable.

Bought that exact group from Bike24 last year because I couldn't find it anywhere else. Changing the hoses was a faff but not the end of the world. Go this way.

Did you switch them yourself or get a shop to do it? Presume you need a SRAM bleed kit etc?

Got a shop to do it. But both brakes needed rebleeding. Apparently shimano's can just be popped in and out at whim.

Did mine with a budget bleed kit, granted it did leak once or actually twice, don't think I tightened some of the bolts evenly at the lever and then brake end wasn't tight enough. Maybe best done by a shop for peace of mind!

Yeah think I'll get a shop to sort it rather than potentially balls it up myself. Thanks for the advice.

Finally decided to build up my road/cross bike and going to treat myself to a brand new groupset. What are peoples opinion on the 4700 vs 5800? Other than lighter and having an extra cog at the back - is it really worth the extra? (~£220 4700 and ~£340 for 5800) I know people speak well of both, I've used both and they seem to work almost exactly the same - anything I'm missing?

Any updates on availability of R7000 / R7020 groupsets?

Anyone got any idea what range cassettes you an use with a 10 speed SRAM Force rear derailleur? I can't find out on their website, & the 10 speed compatibility chart mentions the cage length when this derailleur doesn't even come with different lengths as far as I can tell.

Edit: ah, I guess this is the long cage edition. Probably should play it safe.

As far as I know, Force only came in short cage version, and took up to 28 teeth.

The performance of the brakes. And the weight of the chainset and cassette.

UK distributor has R7000 in stock, while R7020 looks like will be available from August.

There was a Force WiFli 10 speed derailleur which went to 32 teeth. I've got one.

Yeah I'll be swapping out the brakes for canti's anyway so that's fine.

Chainset weight and cassette I think I can live with for the price saving if that's the worst of it!

You can always buy a nicer cassette later on. Tiagra are loose cassettes with spacers riveted together, 105 upwards has alloy carriers that work better with alloy freehub bodies.
Tiagra chainsets aren't hollow forged, 105 are. Instead they have a big scallop out of the back side, that's the big difference.

Gonna ask ere cos I had no luck in AQA:

What's the best value way to obtain a new Tiagra-level flat-bar disc groupset?

Buy full bike and sell rest of parts?

Rotor's (hydraulic) 1x13:

https://www.bikeradar.com/gear/article/rotor-1x13-groupset-details-specs-52573/

10-52t cassette

One of the key highlights of the groupset is the intercompatibility
between both road and mountain bike components.

With both Rotor’s UNO and 1x13 groupsets, at the lever end, you’re
essentially just operating a hydraulic switch, with the indexing mechanism housed within the derailleur itself.

This arrangement meant that designing a shifter for road or mountain bikes is very simple (at least compared to a mechanical groupset, where different pull-ratios between different generations and groupsets complicates matters).

Finally some sense. I want to go back to everything being compatible.