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  • Had the pleasure of racing against some dude with the most vulgar bike I've ever seen in the flesh. Wanted to ask him if it was a Chinese knock-off. @Breso ?

  • 100% Fake:

    1. Seatpost is a size too small (27.2mm vs 31.6mm).
    2. Brake cable exit too low on the toptube.
    3. Chainstays are missing a bend/kink.
    4. 105, really?

  • 100% Fake

    You can't blame the Chinese for trying to make it slightly less hideous than a real one

  • The gold one (real or not) is not a Dogma 60.1, but an FP3.

    Seatpost looks genuine, same goes for the headset cover, which is often different on counterfeit frames.

    FP3 wasn’t high end frame to start with so I don’t see a problem with 105... the biggest issues in my opinion are wheels and paint!

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