EU referendum, brexit and the aftermath

All those Lords votes are just going to be overturned in the Commons, aren't they?

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/may/16/lords-inflict-15th-defeat-on-government-over-eu-withdrawal-bill

I don't think they can let go, I think they'll want to stay in power.

Or May et al will abandon the Bill that attracted all those Lords amendments, but then take the legislative elements from it (minus the amendments) and stick it in a different Bill with a confusingly similar name.

Gammon rewrite of 'Common People'

https://twitter.com/mc_hankins/status/996453017737187330

That's very good

Genius. Love it.

Class!

Not sure if to laugh or cry really

amaze!

Quality. Needs cassetteboy on this pronto..

I’d be willing to bet that 75% of the British born population would fail it.

Unless they just did what a lot of people do and pay the dude at the exam centre to 'pass' them. Going rate was about £300 but this was quite a while ago.

But yeah, I'd say 75% is optimistic.

^ reported to be deported

Can they deport me to Spain? Somewhere in Galicia perhaps...

The day after we find out that Vote Leave and BeLeave used /exactly/ the same data to target Facebook users (https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/may/16/vote-leave-beleave-datasets-facebook-brexit-campaign) we also find out that the "senior strategist" for Vote Leave won't talk to MPs about it (https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/may/17/vote-leave-strategist-dominic-cummings-refuses-to-appear-before-mps).

So, collusion that should have taken the official leave campaign (spearheaded by 2 now Cabinet members, who where also directors) well over the spending limits when the spending by the sub campaign (senior members of which now seem to be advising the PM) was included.

This whole barrel of fish stinks.

WILL. OF. THE. PEOPLE.

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It's really lifted the lid on the corruption that exist in our popular votes hasn't it?

The only conclusion that can be drawn from this is that in every vote that is put to the people, there is at least some degree of rigging. Including General Elections presumably.

Also, I appreciate William Shatner doesn't have much skin in the Brexit game, but someone should get in touch with him re. that version of Common People.

It's quacking a lot like a duck and waddling like one too..

Which means they probably get done for it, but a lot of people seem to shrug when corruption in politics comes up.

Why they then trust the UK corrupt lot to do a hugely complex task like brexit a beyond me.

I forget if it was the 2010 or 2015 election that showed that one up.

Central funding used to prop up the campaigns of individual MPs who were in danger of losing their seats and had spent too close to their local campaign limits.

That stank too, but it's the winners who get to rewrite the rules, and choose who does the investigation of the breaking of them, and MPs don't seem to like anything they touch being looked at too closely, hence the toothlessness of the Electoral Commission.

Probably posted this in wrong thread
https://www.lfgss.com/comments/14239514/

Ah.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/may/22/eu-trade-talks-australia-new-zealand-brexit-commonwealth

so 39 billion euro paid in advance of any talks post-Brexit trade deals according to the Independent

so much winning

That's just (a very welcome) dose of reality surely? The money's for what we owe, not what we want to get.

There's seemingly a lot of this recently - 'new' stories relating to what May had already agreed to.

It's very possible I'm wrong, but I had understood that all this was agreed before Christmas (when May needed a win and to move on to trade talks). She also agreed that N Ireland would remain in the SM and CU unless something else was devised and possibly something about EU citizens rights / ECJ (I can't remember).

^ None of that is actually as you say new, and none of it is actually agreed.

The SM/CU is a backstop, and not what they want, so far all CU plans are not workable for many reasons and Labour also is still in dream land on this.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/may/23/ex-mayor-of-ipswich-inga-lockington-denied-citizenship-after-almost-40-years-in-uk

She has ILR but the HO would not honour this. Sounds familiar by now.

This is worth a read. Dominic Cumming on the Tories and Brexit.

https://dominiccummings.com/