• DT Swiss R24 Spline...one side has come unseated

    They all do that, sir. The R24 rim is barely tubeless ready, much less standards compliant. Adding more tape will make it bigger, but it won't change the shape which is where the problem actually lies.


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  • Thanks. Not thanks.

  • In other news, another G one speed has died in my Crest death rims.

  • Crest

    ...barely tubeless ready, much less standards compliant

  • But how much did you inflated the G-One Speed? Can't remember now but crest did have a very low PSI limit.
    I've inflated mines up to 100 (only for seating purposes) no problem, but I have Grails

  • If the tyre is unseating then it unseats. Adding more tape may help but it may not. It maybe a case of living with it.

    There is something not right about DT Swiss rims. I don't have a cross section to compare to a kinlin for example.

  • That's fairly low. Weird, what happened?

  • There is something not right about DT Swiss rims

    The R24 has a pin jointed rim. It would be even heavier if they had also given it a proper tubeless shape. Sleeve jointed or welded are a different kettle of fish.

  • I'm not sure as neither time it's happened I've been around, but basically the bead slips off which deflates the tyre and seems to ruin the bead for future use.

  • So as you can probably tell these aren’t that old. Sector 28s.
    Is this superficial?
    Just bad luck?
    Should I go back to the retailer?


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  • I broke the only frame that this wheel would work in.

    So I've still never ridden my wonderful tubeless setup.

  • Is the bead actually snapping?

  • I'm not really sure - whatever is happening to it the bead won't mount again properly.

  • It maybe a case of living with it.

    If it was for me I would, but I can do without the hassle: fixing punctured tubes is their limit.

  • Should rename this 'Worst possible advert for tubeless thread'.

  • From my past experience road tubless ain't really there yet. Lower pressure stuff (cross and MTB) is great - along with wider touring/road. But actually running relatively high pressure narrow tyres tubeless is a ball ache.

  • Worst possible advert for tubeless

    It's not just tubeless, there's a long and dishonourable tradition of the cycle industry just winging it with tech which is either not ready at all or can't be done reliably at a price and weight cyclists will tolerate. Fortunately, cyclists are more than happy to tolerate marginal reliability in exchange for higher cycling performance.

    There is a tubeless solution which works, but it's more expensive and heavier than the ghetto solutions on offer. Road bike tyre pressures are nothing that isn't dealt with perfectly well every day on HGVs and aircraft landing gear.

  • What's your opinion on the Pacenti CL25 profile? Sooner or later I'm going to go tubeless but maybe I won't bother if they're going to explode every week because the profile is wrong. Won't be at traditional road pressures/widths fortunately.

    I can't find a proper picture of it, maybe you know where to look

  • What's your opinion on the Pacenti CL25 profile?

    Is it UST certified?

  • No idea. Appears not to be. Thought maybe you would know more about it than me.

  • Sorry for the dumb question, but is the implication that you would only advocate tubeless on road tyres/wheels for those that are certified?

    I have a set of DT Swiss 411s that are 'tubeless ready', but don't appear to be UST certified, and am mulling whether to bother switching to tubeless after a positive experience on my cross bike (Hunt 4 Seasons / Schwalbe G-Ones)

  • Maybe I've just been fortunate to have lucked into good wheel (Kinlin, Alex) / tire (Schwalbe, Maxxis) combinations but I haven't had a legit puncture or sudden failure since switching over a year ago. And I live in a region where these things appear annually:

    I'll doubtless eventually have a catastrophic failure that has me cursing the Tubeless Gods but no way I'm going back to tubed until then.

  • 18 months on DT Swiss 460 & reynolds crabon and chinese crabon tubeless without any issues. Got some Bontrager tubeless ready recently, slightly trickier to get set up but also no issues.

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