Which Groupset?

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dancing james in reply to @frankenbike

(e.g.) 44/11-36 for 95% of your riding, but want a 50/34 + 11-36 or a triple or something for touring.

Or just stick with 50/34 and 11-36 and have less faff.

44 11/36 gives what benefit? And only retro grouches want bar end shifters.

It just seems you want to make life over complicated and may well need to change chains.

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frankenbike in reply to @dancing james

Well I guess 1× is less faff when you're out riding though. Front shifting is a pain in the arse especially if you're rolling up and down some horrid 20% gravel slopes. And I think bar-ends are fine, especially on the front shifter when you're not using it often. Re. chains I don't see why you'd need to change? If your derailleur can handle 34/11 and 50/36 at the same time (perfectly doable) it should have no problem with 44/11-36. Definitely need a clutch mech with good springs though.

It just seems you want to make life over complicated

Me all over

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Scilly.Suffolk in reply to @frankenbike

Re. chains I don't see why you'd need to change?

Chain size is determined by the two largest sprockets.

Changing from 50t to 44t will definitely need two chains.

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