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  • Need some help about a councils responsibility in regards to road markings. I was riding back from new workshop for the first time at about 10pm this week with a colleague, the next thing I know I'm on the ground. Get myself up and drag bike off road, only to realise my friend is behind me, knocked out cold with teeth missing. Both bikes are written off,the first ever isen and a 953 Talbot. There was a paedstrian crossing that jutted out into the road, but had absolutely no markings on. It was dark, terrible lighting and was totally invisible. Wahoo says we were going at about 30km/h when we hit it, one after another so it could have been a lot worse, but still. Is there any requirement for these things to be marked? We both had lights etc but due to the conditions it was hard to see even when I went back to look at it after the crash. Looked on rider down forum for somewhere to post this, but couldn't find. Photo of the offending crossing, although in the day.


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  • Shit luck, awful to hear of your friend's injury. That's not a pedestrian crossing for which any marking requirements exist (the 'look right' is strictly optional). It's merely a kerb build-out to facilitate crossing (one of the variety of things sometimes referred to as 'courtesy crossing' with a central 'refuge'). It's a poor design that I'd never advocate. As far as I can see from the picture, all the required markings are there--for the car parking bays either side of it. Technically, you shouldn't have been riding in the parking bays but in the adjacent traffic lane. It was probably your misfortune that no cars were parked there, so it wasn't obvious enough that there were those bays. I've heard before of this sort of design catching people out--basically, for cycling you want even kerblines and any transitions should be gradual, which this design isn't.

  • That’s terrible. One of those has caught me out before, but in Brighton.

  • Oh mate that’s awful :(

  • Horrible.

    I hope you and your chum heal up swiftly!

  • That's terrible Matt. Hope both you and your mate are OK.

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