What is a hipster? Look at this fucking hipster...

Alternatively, the years of experience of riding in a cold, damp climate could mean that the wisdom of crowds effect amongst British cyclists is correct.

Jeez, I just said "some people who experience knee pain might be riding too much" not "all cyclists are idiots". I can't post anything on here without getting a sarcastic reply disagreeing with me. Why bother

Welcome to LFGSS: The friendliest forum on the internet.

@frankenbike because you need it, and it completes you.

I rode through the winter for about 13 years in Winnipeg.
My knees are gefucked.

I can't post anything on here without getting a sarcastic reply disagreeing with me.

Oh no, you can post plenty of things on here without a sarcastic reply disagreeing with you.

gefucked

Are you importing German participle structure?

Something I've said since I was in my teens, I blame the clash of Southern Manitoban Plattdeutsch and growing up in a mostly Métis town.

@frankenbike fyi we all wear leg warmers. It is the only way to rid yourself of calf arthritis. Everybody knows that. Fucking rookies amirightguyz?

TBF, he is pretty successful with the ladies, whatever he wears over his calves...

If we’re defining success as one off purely sexual encounters which nourish the ego but not the soul, right?

Which of course we are.

For the soul I have LFGSS.

can someone link me to the original ikea thread

Tuesday Night Ride Club ‘09

129 pages
i'm not reading ramsaye repeating boo! for 129 pages

A pertinent post:

https://www.lfgss.com/comments/7786921/

This followed a previous IKEA injury, the swellbow mentioned, and the original bed wetting of a TNRC ride due to a trip to IKEA.

It kind of assembled itself from there...

I can't post anything on here without getting a sarcastic reply disagreeing with me. Why bother

Remoaner

I'd expect incorrectly set up bikes are a much greater cause of knee problems than exercising knees in the cold.

I've never subscribed to the "keep knees covered until it's warm" principle. I only cover them when it's uncomfortable not to (so 3-4 weeks of the year), but then I do pretty much everything that is supposedly bad for knees...

• I've played 5-a-side football on astroturf twice a week for 15+ years almost always with bare knees
  
• Audax on fixed (including hilly rides)
  
• More recently, run long distances (and with a BMI >30 too)
  
  

From memory I've never had an injury that wasn't an impact injury (someone kicking me or me kicking someone).

More softly-spoken Polish girls with dreadlocks and fewer knee arguments pls thanx.

I have osteoarthritis in both knees, torn cartilage in both as well. A friend who used to race cx in Holland said the rules of thumb was below 16 degrees knees should be covered with warmers or embrocation. My knees have felt like they are grinding whenever I fail to heed the advice. When I ride without protecting my knees in cold weather they can ache and feel gritty for a couple of days.

Whereas in the Yoga discipline I practice the instructors prefer trainees knees to be uncovered so that you can see how well leg muscles are being engaged and how well the patella is tracking across the joint.

The knee has tremendous amounts of torque going through it when you are cycling. Tendons are less elastic when cold so it makes sense to ensure the knee stays warm, to stop tendon damage.

Embrocation only "warms" by irritation.
It's not a real "warmth".

I get really hot under the collar when people say stuff like this, it really gets to me.

But then at least I'm properly warm afterwards.

The layer of Vaseline (or similar base carrier in embrocation) keeps the heat in.

He said on cold days they’d put Vaseline on their ears to keep them warm.

Are you actually arguing from a position of knowledge? Or "my mate said?"

Because. As an irritant, I think it activates pathways in the immune system. Which I think is different to vasodilatory compounds.

I dunno. We need to ask a proper doctor and stuff.