Bikepacking - a viable alternative to racks & panniers

it doesn't swing, but the fact it's tapered means a drybag never properly fits down there.

unless you buy their special tapered drybags, which are an extra expense and pain.

it doesn't swing much, yes, but the straps loosen themselves over time more than they should. revelate gear still better overall.

Drop me a PM if you want this.

Slightly left field but..

Shoes for off the bike... some nice walking shoes would be ideal but they’re big and heavy.... so what shoes weigh nothing and pack down to as little as possible?

Or do you go without and just wear your spd shoes for the times when you have to have shoes on..?

I’m wondering about some minimalistic sandals, or some canvas pumps or even some of those flexible beach type shoes... be interested to know what others have done.

Options:

1. Wear your clipless shoes for pottering around
   
2. Use flat pedals
   
3. Useflat pedals with toe clips/straps
   
4. Spare pair of shoes - Decathlon
   aqua shoes are v light and cheap
   
   

I'm still umming and ahhing over shoe choice for 4 days in Scotland. Either SPDs or flats and 5.10s...

Clipless touring shoes or just flat pedals. Believe me you won't die without clipless

For a tour in Scotland I wore my Mavic MTB spd shoes which were fine for walking off the bike to shops etc. But I bought a pair of Walsh PB Ultra Extremes which are super light and great for scrambling up hills. They don't pack super small but they are waterproof as well. I wore them to hike up the South Cuillins on Skye.

Espadrilles

Flat pedals and birkenstocks. Always.

I always take a pair of Nike flyknits in the bag when overnighting up here in Scotland. They pack small and are hella light.

Mainly as it rains a lot!!!! and putting on dry shoes after a day on the bike is heavenly. Also gives you time to get shoes dry.

Evolv Cruzer classics are light and comfy, good for scrambling around or lounging, and they make good flat pedal shoes too.

Poolslides.

Ideally supreme ones.

http://www.getdatgadget.com/attract-right-crowd-follow-bring-beer-sandals/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysqPgbDXLgI

The Birkenstocks EVA weigh very little and would make a good dangle (you can wipe them dry).

Vivobarefoot shoes are all super light and flexible for packing up.

Yes, I have either these or pool slides depending on time of year

Skechers do some ultra-light trainers and some of the barefoot ones with the super-thin soles are pretty light and squishable.

Cheers for the suggestions, who knew off the bike shoes was such a hot topic.

It's definitely a personal thing, I get what people are saying about using flats, but after riding clipless on almost all my bikes for years, I wouldn't ride for any length of time without them. I use flats on my beater for popping to the shops but I'd never ride any real distance on them. Those Xero shoes look like a decent option, I'd get milage out of them beyond 'spare shoes for bike touring' too which is a bonus. Cheers!

I WISH I’d never chucked my 90s folding acg nikes. Dick.I was only thinking this as I got dressed this am.

Someone shared this on here when it was a kickstarter (so probably crap), socks that are shoes https://skinners.cc/

'Athleisure'

This really upset me.

Also, for those asking about cheap/small/light locks a few pages back;
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3mm-7x19-Stainless-Steel-Wire-Rope-SOFT-EYE-Sling-Strop-Fabrication-2-Meter/253276186741?epid=18005535045&hash=item3af86fe875:g:HnoAAOSwWdZZa7gy

Obviously it's not going to stop someone with full bolt croppers, but 2m of 3mm stainless wire rope is about 70-80g, plus a small luggage lock and it'll roll up small enough to be packed just about anywhere. Going upto 5mm wire is about 190g. I think I'm going to get one for my upcoming tour, it's certainly a lot better than going without.

Have you not heard of that? It's why 90% of girls* walk around in leggings, fluoro technical t-shirts and trainers these days, even if you're just going to the supermarket. Been around for a few years. Can't blame them, bet it's comfy

* don't know if there is such a thing as athleisure for men, assuming that chavs in tracksuits don't count

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYRENWT8lz8

I can do everything in a pair of jeans and a t-shirt. That is men's active wear.