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Thanks!
Had to Google these things to make sure they were what I thought, and was right... Yeah!
The two watches above have started ticking now I've pulled them out of the drawer... I wonder which one I should sacrifice for my experiments.
I haven't read this thread much, any recommended online tutorials for beginners, or books?
Good luck mate. Let me know if you want to borrow any tools. My degausser and timegrapher might come in handy