• The ADHN has an ERD closer to 610mm. I have sold a few and built with a few. The ones I have built with have been disppointing. One pair was not that round and a spoke failed (I know I had to sit down) the wheels rebuilt with TB14's (expensive and I dont like that much but i like failures less).
    another had a major defect in the bead hook which I noticed only after I had built the wheel. all of them I would describe as fiddley to build with . So I no longer sell them. It maybe there is a bad batch about that would account for the defects but not the fiddley nature of the rims. That is how they are i think.

  • the r460's were not fiddley I just had a couple of unround ones and warranting them would have cost me £8 per box to send to TF tuned so I went off them (i.e it would cost me money to get my money back). That's was their problem. If madison could do the warranty I would not be annoyed by it all. Also, the rims that were fine were still not that round. The ADHN in comparison was difficult to get straight and the last two were not round at all. The Ryde Edge R13 rim in comparison is round straight and tubeless compatible. Everything the ADHN failed to be so my suggestion is use that rim instead.

    A rim that gives a problem that is not easily rectified for me is a problem.

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