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• #2177
From the other side of the fence; https://labourlist.org/2018/04/why-im-glad-corbyn-came-to-the-jewdas-seder/
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• #2178
Guido Fawkes again being treated like an impartial, legitimate news source by the BBC is worrying as well.
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• #2179
Is there a proper way of complaining about that to them?
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• #2180
Really? The Today programme made it perfectly clear that Guido Fawkes has an agenda and also cited numerous other sources of Corbyn being at the event - mainly people who were also there.
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• #2181
But why include him as a source at all? The bits I heard, admittedly while I was in the shower (sorry everyone) played up the narrative that his attendance was, and this is GFs take on the matter, a cynical move to upset more credible Jewish organisations. A view expanded upon by the two studio guests.
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• #2182
One of the studio guests I heard was Jon Lansman, who was obviously very supportive of him. And the article on the BBC website is reasonably balanced. I'm not defending the BBC, I just don't see anything "worrying".
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• #2183
I think the story was "broken" by GF.
So reference to him is logical. However, I'm not sure what the story here is.
This pretty much encapsulates my view (or lack of it) on the actual matter;
βIt is not for non-Jewish people, in criticising Corbynβs attendance, to determine what is and isnβt a legitimate expression of the Jewish faith."
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• #2184
Alternative BBC headline: "Corbyn snubs Jewish Organization"
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• #2185
I just read the BBC report. I must say the response here is much more measured. The conclusion really does seem to be "JC did something wrong re: Jews again." I'm not going on Twitter to see what they have to say. There are more fun ways of ruining my day.
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• #2186
The worrying thing is using an overtly bigoted and agenda'd source which contextualises and steers the narrative in a way that could have been avoided by just simply not engaging and giving the source a platform.
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• #2187
I've not read the BBC article, but have seen a couple of references to this on Twitter, which seem to say that Corbyn spent the evening with the wrong sort of Jews, which makes no sense to me - what am I missing?
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• #2188
I think its because he attended a left wing group event, instead of spending the evening getting cunted off by a right wing one. I think?
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• #2189
what am I missing?
That when you think you are PM in waiting you don't dick about? This is Corbo dicking about.
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• #2190
Some media outlets have portrayed this as Corbyn spending the evening with Jewish anti-Zionist (read; anti-Semitic) communists.
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• #2191
Why?
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• #2192
That when you think you are PM in waiting you don't dick about? This is Corbo dicking about.
Why is this dicking about?
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• #2193
Some media outlets have portrayed this as Corbyn spending the evening with Jewish anti-Zionist (read; anti-Semitic) communists.
Pretend Jews?
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• #2194
As clinical (cynical?) as it sounds, when you want to lead, you have to have a sense of what things look like, not just what they are. The group in question seems to be a bunch of irreviant satirist pranksters, poking fun at the 'jewish establishment' - which is kinda cool and I bet they are good craic, but hanging out with them when embroiled in accusations of leading a party that has problems with anti semitism seems to be a bit....like dicking about.
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• #2195
Yes Jewish Anti-jews.
It's laughable, almost.
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• #2196
but hanging out with them when embroiled in accusations of leading a party that has problems with anti semitism seems to be a bit....like dicking about.
Again, why?
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• #2197
Because it his first meeting with a Jewish group since the protest.
(although my understanding was he'd been refused a meeting with the protest groups until a set of conditions had been met)
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• #2198
Why should hanging out with a Jewish organization when embroiled in claims of antisemitism be anything other than a positive thing?
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• #2199
Also, do we know the responses from the The Jewish Leadership Council and Board of Deputies of British Jews? We do know he immediately asked to meet with them.
edit your edit preempted this question! ha
Top of the bill on BBC news this morning.
What a fucking rot.