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• #1627
If you call commercial establishments and they agree to help then it's legit.
You can't call private individuals and get help.
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• #1628
But I think the point is if you know the bike shop they’re more likely to say ‘Ah hey Joe, of course we’ll stay open another 30 minutes so we can mend your bike.’
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• #1629
You’re missing the fact that there is a rule prohibiting advice from friends.
Basically. If it’s not a publically accessible service (that any racer could access) it’s considered assistance and banned.
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• #1630
It’s a grey area. And an honest racer would call them shop and just say please treat me like any other person who might call.
If you think they’re offering you special service, then you need to make the call to turn it down.
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• #1631
That's harder to police. It's up to the rider to make the honourable call on that.
It's like people who live on a race route - they have some inherent advantage over those that don't but the rules TRY to equalise these disparities as much as possible. They can't cater for everything.
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• #1632
Ultimately it's all self policed and as much about ethos as it is the rules.
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• #1633
drafting
Sorry, definitely not permitted.
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• #1634
Ultimately it's all self policed
TABR and TCR have overlords that have adjusted results in the past. IPWR isn't officially running so there's no organiser to dish out anything.
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• #1635
Now you're starting to get the hang of these 'jokes', O. :P
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• #1636
Rhino could have just flipped the stem. Seems like a waste of time swapping bikes unless there was something wrong with the old one.
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• #1637
I always wondered who was behind the fancy bears.
Anyway as a side note, even if I disagree with their drafting of the rules, should I end up entering any such a event rest assured I'm a stickler for rules and would stick to them.
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• #1638
Rhino could have just flipped the stem. Seems like a waste of time swapping bikes unless there was something wrong with the old one.
Maybe not a waste of time if you are sales director for a bike brand!
Rhino is not entirely on holiday doing this. -
• #1639
Apparently a bog standard Trek is the best buy this year.
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• #1641
flatbar on 5500kms OMFG.
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• #1642
Fixeh battle is on! #fixedbeef
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• #1643
Just watched this, I’m always blown away by how composed the riders are. Keep going @veganjoseph ... amazing stuff.
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• #1644
It's because you're so fucking happy to see someone. 1hr later you're back to being fucked again. Happens every time.
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• #1645
Enjoying all those mini-interviews with the riders. Pawel's is good too.
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• #1646
It's because you're so fucking happy to see someone. 1hr later you're back to being fucked again. Happens every time.
Well put.
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• #1647
Yeah, funny how I've often heard at a cp that I look like I wasn't even in the race, just a random guy hanging out there chatting. And I'm like yeah no problem, just riding my bike. Thinking you should have seen me 5 mins ago, crawling up a climb, barely staying on the bike, nose bleeding, whole body destroyed. Tho I do enjoy being there by myself, but you somehow get more organised when you're among people who know who you are.
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• #1648
I've been thinking I might ride PBP fixed, if I'll go there again in 2019. This all is very inspiring.
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• #1649
If Pawel uses those cogs, at least I know I’ll be first unsupported IPWR fixie lol!
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• #1650
Depends if anyone spots your post on Facebook asking for advice about that campsite ;-)
In an ITT are you racing if no one else ever races against your time?
"Compete with another or others to see who is fastest at covering a set course"
A race is a contest of speed. No contest, no race.
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/race