That Corbyn fella...

He's naïve and always has been. He fails or refuses to believe that some Palestinian campaigners have anti Semitic view and are even holocaust deniers.

Do you have to agree with someones views to believe that they should be treated humanely?

Who is or are being treated inhumanely...

Jeremy Corbyn?

Who is or are being treated inhumanely...

Why is that important?

Is JC being treated inhumanely or are we talking about the Palestinians ?

I hardly think JC is being treated inhumanely.

Lets establish a common framework here before getting into the detail.

Question: Should the ethical treatment of a group of people be based on whether they hold views which you disagree with?

I don't think it is at all credible to believe that he is simply naive - it certainly isn't excusable for someone in his position of responsibility.

Give me pom poms and a leotard and I'd happily cheerlead for Corbo

He's not naive, he just refuses to play the bullshit game of caveating everything he says, of course he knows the Palestinos aren't all saints

No.

I suspect that he prefers to ignore the difficult stuff...

as he does in so much else..

I really want to say no, but then what about Katie Hopkins?

from michael rosen:

Good to see that DUP's Sammy Wilson was at the 'Enough is Enough' rally:

Here's part of Sammy's entry on wikipedia:

"In January 1994, the Ulster Defence Association (UDA) released a document calling for ethnic cleansing and repartition of Ireland, with the goal of making Northern Ireland wholly Protestant.[10][11] The plan was to be implemented should the British Army withdraw from Northern Ireland. Some areas with strong Catholic/nationalist majorities near the Irish border would be handed over to the Republic of Ireland, and those Catholics left stranded in the "Protestant state" would be "expelled, nullified, or interned".[10] Controversially, Wilson called the plan a "very valuable return to reality". He added: "[it] shows that some loyalist paramilitaries are looking ahead and contemplating what needs to be done to maintain our separate Ulster identity".[10]"

as was Ian Paisley Jr by all accounts.

to all the centrist dads: put your boy up and lets have another leadership election, now's the perfect time, all that chicken coup-ing is bound to pay off sooner or later. If you win, i'll happily step in line behind the new leadership, especially if it means we can get shot of these tory fucks that are ruining people's lives sooner, but i'm not sure that really matters to you, does it.

and I could top that with the Labour Left's indulgence of the IRA in the 80s...

Was considering that last night when Chuka Umunna was giving it the concerned face. He should throw down and see if his "why, yes, I would be leader had I not dropped out" theory is true when put to the members.

and the labour right's indulgence of the bush administration in the 90s/00s...

and so on.

Ah so thats JC excused then...

no. you've said that. the point is, be careful of the company you keep - an accusation levelled at corbyn with stark regularity.

not that many of you give a shit because why would you want to countenance anything that suggests corbyn, whilst a clumsy old fart at times, has more integrity than many of the opportunistic cunts at that demo, especially those from the labour party (jess phillips et al).

you'll be pleased to hear he has subsequently requested a meeting with the organisers to discuss how he can help address the issue of alleged anti-semitism in the labour party. Not the first time he's done as much either.

also - are you suggesting Michael Rosen should be ignored because he's the wrong kind of Jew?

Or he's human and wasn't thinking about it enough at the time, nor expecting to be leader?

The issue now is that he is leader. Which means he sets the tone for the party and shoulders responsibility for its members.

Don't know why everyone hated the IRA so much, apart from the killing they did have a point!

I'm not suggesting anything at all about Michael Rosen and I'm not sure why you'd ask that.

Point is people shouldn't be making excuses for Corbyn's comments on that mural because there aren't any - and he'll show by his response how serious he is about this.

I guess the argument could be made that he and the Labour party have already had multiple warnings that it has an anti-semitism problem with little to show for it but we'll leave that for another day.

Not quite the same thing..

Exactly Hugo, he is the leader and ,as with his response to the Salisbury poisonings , really ought to think it through or have people to do it for him. Instead he has Seamus Milne.