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  • Cheers for the extensive reply!

    My question was a bit short and vague as I was on mobile but signed in on desktop now...

    I dont even know how to kick off something like this - friends who had something similar done had an architect friend help but I don't know any personally. I have also been "designing" this for about 5 years so already have quite specific ideas about what I want done so wouldn't be knocking on an architects door with a big bag of money and just say "show me what you can do!".

    But then they are experts in their field so...

    I'm part of a group who manage a block of flats and over run works are our biggest problem, good shout on penalty payments.

    I don't trust most people, so would prob source and manage most things myself. Work wise - the mindless stuff I can do myself and I have friends in most trades so the actual doing isn't the issue.

    I imagine I will be a nightmare client.

    Maybe at this stage I should be asking for architect recommendations... I might have ot track down my old land lords too, they were good architects.

  • ... good shout on penalty payments.

    I would be interested to know how people would enforce this. I work in an architects office and the amount of hassle they have dealing with contract over runs is amazing, and this is in a chain where (theoretically) every single contractors roles and responsibilities are laid out. Any change in spec from the client, or delay in materials being delivered etc. will be argued as a reason for late completion by the contractors. The architects always tell clients, an overrun is annoying right now, but in 9 months you'll have forgotten about it, and you'll be happy with the quality finish from doing it right. Trying to enforce a timescale is going to lead to cut corners etc., and someone else is always to blame.

    I just don't see it working in a small scale project, and would be worried that it will flag you as a problem client which will scare off any good contractors.

    Disclaimer: I'm not an architect nor a property owner

  • I would be interested to know how people would enforce this.

    I'd like to know how any supplier would be cray cray to sign up to it, unless you offset it with bonus getting shit done on time payments.

  • Thats the other way of thinking about it... and I flip between the two.

    I dont plan on trying to beat price down, I want it down well, in a realistic time frame, I have had rushed jobs done for cheap before and while 100's are saved you live with the results forever. If I can't afford it I won't get it done, rather than squeeze and skimp.

    But to @bq s point, if you estimate X and the reality is X x 4 you did your job badly from the offset and the bad job now runs the risk of having an impact on anything else planned.

    @Howard I wouldn't want to pay a bonus for something being done by a certain time, I want a job quoted, estimated and done well.

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