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  • I like the NHS. I don't want to have to prove I'm going to pay the bill

    As long as there are people in the country who don't have the right to access the NHS but do try to do so fraudulently, you are going to have to prove that somebody is going to pay the bill. If your ID means the government will pay the bill, then the way you'll have to prove to the NHS that your bill is going to be paid is by proving your ID to them.

  • Well, that's different from suggesting that healthcare is better provided privately (or I'm still missing the link, I am a bear of little brain).
    Firstly, on what should the right to access the NHS depend - citizenship alone? Or should it also extend to those who have lived here for most of their lives, regardless of whether or not they've paid taxes.
    Secondly, is the number of

    people in the country who don't have the right to access the NHS but do try to

    significant? Reports of fraud in the NHS don't really mention that - they focus on patients falsely claiming exemptions, staff falsely claiming work done, and contractors being overpaid. Let alone PFI which is not fraud but is nonetheless a travesty. There seem to be much bigger fish to fry when it comes to paying the bills of the NHS.

    I suppose - in my opinion - 'tightening up' on who is accessing the NHS is pretty irrelevant if you care about the cost of national healthcare.

  • that's different from suggesting that healthcare is better provided privately (or I'm still missing the link

    The link is that if you don't want National ID, you need to stop expecting the state to provide everything. Things which are the proper remit of national government are provided to everybody who is here, regardless of their status - things like defence, courts, environmental protection. As soon as you restrict a service to only certain classes of resident or visitor, you need to identify them.

    I suppose - in my opinion - 'tightening up' on who is accessing the NHS is pretty irrelevant if you care about the cost of national healthcare.

    The amount lost to what is popularly called healthcare tourism is, as you intimate, easily lost in the noise within the NHS budget. It's not necessarily the case that it would continue to be a financial irrelevance if you threw the doors wide open to all-comers, since there must be some deterrent effect provided by the limited checks we do now and the pursuit for payment of those caught defrauding the NHS. Even if the economics say healthcare tourism is irrelevant, the politics might say you have to do something about it if the small losses have a material effect on the willingness of taxpayers to keep funding socialised healthcare.

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