Car appreciation... the aesthetics, the engineering, etc

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  • Thoughts on this? https://www.clearmotion.com

    Reminds me of the Bose suspension system I read about a while ago. Great idea but too costly to get adapted

  • You know Citroen basically perfected oleopneumatic suspension years and years ago. Does nearly everything that clearmotion system does (except the predictive part).

    Still makes me wonder why more companies just didn't license the technology from Citroen.

  • This looks like something you can fit post purchase though?

  • Some did such as rolls royce. What killed it IMO was lack of knowledge of the system and how to repair/service/maintain it. The exchange of information on the internet, allowed the exchange of knowledge of the system and how adaptable it is.

  • You can with the citroen system, been done a few times, to other citroens. Usually the system in the BX was fitted to zx and beyond. Think that as no one has completed a many part youtube video showing how to fit it.

  • this little car is loving London. pic courtesy of @Shinscar


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  • That is an FSM...not a fiat......\csb

    Back is lowered but not camber corrected, whilst the front hasn't been lowered. Will handle like shite which is a pity as they do handle well.

    Edit difference between a 126 and 126p.

  • Have you considered that perhaps your writing style might come across as... I don't know, a bit know-it-all, unhelpful, and generally unpleasant?

    Back is lowered but not camber corrected, whilst the front hasn't been
    lowered. Will handle like shite which is a pity as they do handle
    well.

    Not sure on your particular experience with these cars, but it looks like the setup of the suspension and geometry isn't quite right for best handling, which these are capable of. Looks like there's a bit of reverse rake and too much camber at the rear as a result.

    I won't bother addressing the first sentence.

  • i think it is a Fiat dude. but interested to hear why you think otherwise.

    can't say I am worried about the handling.

    it puts a smile on my face any road up

  • Cared once, don't anymore. There is only so many times when you call someone a liar that nice goes away.

    It is a statement, nothing more.

  • But you're often wrong, no?

  • couple of nice Citroens....

  • Am I? Feel free to go back and check.

  • If they have been sitting and not maintained it'll be all the spheres at least.

  • I have, you were wrong.

  • so so wrong

  • Not sure, I mean based on this https://www.lfgss.com/comments/14103849/ yer man Zissou is suggesting it’s an original lhd from somewhere called Monza. Can’t be arsed to check if that is in Poland or not so until I do I’m siding with Lynx that this could be a FSM not a fiat.

  • I think he knows that it isnt?

  • FSM buit Polski Fiat 126p. To give it the correct title, but does it matter? EDIT The build quality will be similar.

    Monza in Italy, thought all the Italian ones were built in Southern Italy, Cassino for one.

  • Spill the beans?

  • Didn't Chris Evans have an alleged abarth one. Believe the correct term would be ommage as there is just that one.

  • I pass this one in Pimlico most days


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  • yes I see that one quite regularly. I know the street it parks on and sometimes take a wander from my office near Victoria at lunchtime and see it. its a little beauty


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  • Yeah that’s it, I work on Gillingham St behind the station, there’s quite regularly interesting cars around there including a Honda Beat kei car

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